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Title: Relations in spiritual world

User: Igor     Date: 2007-07-02 09:00:47

 

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

 

It is said that jivas in spiritual world have full knowledge. Why then we can see that some jivas worship Laksmi-Narayana, or some other unlimited Vaikuntha forms of Lord like Hrsikesa or Anirudha? Why they do not worship Sri Sri Radha Krsna or Gaura-Nitai? After we observe this how we can properly understand that jiva have full knowledge?

 

Are there night and day in Goloka Vrndavana? If there are no night how then Sri Sri Radha-Krsna perform their pastimes? Are they manifesting their pastimes more in aisvarya mood there and parakiya mood in Gokula?

 

I would like to ask what are relations between jives in spiritual world? Do they feel attraction like father-son, husband-wife etc. in this world? In other words is attraction 100% God oriented or there are some relations among jivas, or both?

 

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna 

 

Title: Re: Relations in spiritual world

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2007-07-16 22:31:39

 

 

It is said that jivas in spiritual world have full knowledge. Why then we can see that some jivas worship Laksmi-Narayana, or some other unlimited Vaikuntha forms of Lord like Hrsikesa or Anirudha? Why they do not worship Sri Sri Radha Krsna or Gaura-Nitai? After we observe this how we can properly understand that jiva have full knowledge?

 

 

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Why do think there is no full knowledge in the worship of Lord Lakshmi Narayana or the other eternal Vishnu Tattvas in Vaikuntha? Worship of all Vishnu Forms in Vaikuntha is fully sat-chit-ananda and is full knowledge. Vaikuntha means full knowledge. There is nothing incomplete there. But even in full knowledge there are many levels like Vaikuntha, Ayodhya, Dvaraka, Mathura, Puri, Vraja and Navadvipa but all of them are fully perfect and complete among Themselves.

 

Every soul is fully complete and satisifed in one's constitutional position in any of these levels and there is no deficiency at all in any way. Infact the soul situated in Vaikuntha and serving Shri Shri Lakshmi Narayana is so perfectly situated with full knowledge of one's constitutional position that the soul will not even desire to go to other higher levels in the unlimited Vaikuntha sky because the soul knows that soul can please the Lord more perfectly in one's constitutional position only. So the pleasure and service of the Lord is paramount in all levels in Vaikuntha and thus they are all perfect, complete and full of all knowledge, eternity and bliss.

 

 

Are there night and day in Goloka Vrndavana? If there are no night how then Sri Sri Radha-Krsna perform their pastimes?

 

 

Yes, there is a spiritual sun, so there is a spiritual day and spiritual night to faciliate the eight-fold daily pastimes of Lords Nityananda Gauranga and Shri Shri Radha Krishna.

 

 

Are they manifesting their pastimes more in aisvarya mood there and parakiya mood in Gokula?

 

 

There is Aishvarya part of Goloka where Shri Shri Radha Krishna sit on a throne as described in the Brahma Vaivarta Purana. Innermost is the Vraja Vrindavana where parakiya rasa is all-pervading.

 

 

I would like to ask what are relations between jivas in spiritual world?

 

 

The relations are all spiritual specifically meant to increase the pleasure of Lord Gauranga Krishna not for individual sense gratification.

 

 

Do they feel attraction like father-son, husband-wife etc. in this world? In other words is attraction 100% God oriented or there are some relations among jivas, or both?

 

 

I do not exactly understand your question. There may normally be no relation at all of the relations in this material world with the relationships in the spiritual world except ofcourse the eternal relations of Gurus, Disciples and Vaishnava Sadhus. In the spiritual world, the relations are 100% Lord-oriented and there is no scent or even a tiny thought of sense-gratification because the bodies are fully spiritual meant only for the pleasure of the Lord. Please keep your nice questions coming Igor. Next time I will try to reply faster.

 

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

 

Title: Re: Relations in spiritual world

User: Anonymous    Date: 2007-07-17 20:25:09

 

Dear Guru Maharaj Ji,

Please accept my humble Pranam at your lotus feet. Hare Krishna.

As indicated above that there is a spiritual sun in Vainkutha. Will you please kindly explain  what is that?  As indicated in Bhagvat Gita by Lord Krishna in Chapter 9,  "Na tad bhasyate surya na Shashank Pavakah......."  Lord Krishna here refers to a material sun? In another one of my foolish inquiry is that, what is the atmosphere in Spitual Planets? Are there weather fluctuation? I see certain pictures of Radha-Krishna in Goloka which shows birds, cows etc. Did they got liberated directly from animal kingdom? and how can this be without appropriate inteligence? I wonder if all this is stated in Shrimad Bhagvat somewhere.

Thank you Guruji, I get lot of vital information from devotees question and your authentic answers. No where I find this sort of service. There are lots of Swamiji arrive in summer months and go back before the first cold wheather spell of western climate. Sorry, but we do not get much advancement if any at all.

My Humble Pranam,

Navin Vyas

 

Title: Re: Spiritual or Material Sun

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2007-07-17 22:04:41

 

 

As indicated above that there is a spiritual sun in Vainkutha. Will you please kindly explain what is that? As indicated in Bhagvat Gita by Lord Krishna in Chapter 9, "Na tad bhasyate surya na Shashank Pavakah......." Lord Krishna here refers to a material sun?

 

 

Yes, in this verse, Lord Krishna is talking about the material sun, moon etc. not about the spiritual one manifested from His Yogamaya. The Lord is known as nirguna meaning He has no material qualities but that does not mean that He cannot have variegated spiritual qualities.

 

 

what is the atmosphere in Spitual Planets?

 

 

The atmosphere is set in such a manner as to give the maximum happiness to Lord Gauranga Krishna. There are some forests where all the six seasons are present and there are some in which the Lord enters to experience the atmosphere of a specific season whenever He wants. He does have to wait for the seasons, the seasons wait to server Him.

 

 

Are there weather fluctuation?

 

 

Yes, if they are conducive to the Lord's pastimes and increase His happiness. Like when Indra suddenly lashed Vrindavana with intense rain.

 

 

I see certain pictures of Radha-Krishna in Goloka which shows birds, cows etc. Did they got liberated directly from animal kingdom? and how can this be without appropriate inteligence?

 

 

Not necessarily. When a soul becomes sadhana-siddha generally in the human body (or sometimes from other bodies also by kripa siddhi), the soul can attain a form of a bird or a cow in Goloka in Shaanta Rasa (mellow of neutrality) if that is the eternal constitutional position of the soul in relation to the Lord. It has no connection whatsoever with the material cycle of transmigration and the 8.4 million species of life in the material world. Every associate of the Lord in Goloka is supremely intelligent with pure consciousness and is expert in serving the Lord as per one's own constitutional position.

 

 

Thank you Guruji, I get lot of vital information from devotees question and your authentic answers. No where I find this sort of service.

 

 

Thank you Navinji. I feel very absorbed in Bhakti while replying to the wonderful questions of the devotees. I pray I can serve more in this way and hope that the devotees have lots and lots of question to ask always.  This is really satsanga.

 

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

 

Title: Re: Relations in spiritual world

User: Neil LA Date: 2007-07-20 02:17:02

 

How can I thank Swami Gaurangapada and the devotees for this strong taste of the spiritual world?

I just want to drink up this nectar even though I know I am most fallen and undeserving.

 

Thank you!!!!