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Title: Bilva Mangal Thakur.
User: Navinvyas Date: 2007-04-04 19:17:32
Thank you once again to keep person like me on Bhakti path. Without the association of your email and website, I am sure i will be lost somewhere in suffering world and no without any guidance.
Gurudev, I was reading an pastime article by one of the senior devotees. This story was of Bilva Mangal Thakur around the Lord Chaitanya time. As I understood from that article that Sanatana Goswamiji was his initiating diksha guru as he was exalted devotee himself. Due to a constant association with a prostitute he was far fallen from devotional service. He had to again accept Sanatana Goswamiji as his siksha Guru later on as he came to spiritual realization from the same prostitute. It was indicated that Bilva Mangal Thakur lived in Vrindavana for more than few centuries. Did he had any role in Radha-Krishna Vridavan lila? How one can live for several hundred years like Bilva Mangal Thakur, especially in mid fifteen century? Did he had any special boon? He must be born in around 1000-1100 AD.or even before. Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is teaching something to us by this? I tried to obtain answer for this around here in this area and I was told that this was a fairy tale. Will you please answer to shed a light on this subject?
I really appreciate your spiritual guidance. My body is from Gujarat and here in US for past fourty years, really did not know Gaura-Nitai and there past times until my association with you pass few months. I hope I will not bore you or waste your time with my first grader questions.
Your Sevak in Lord Nitai-Gauranga's service,
Title: Re: Bilva Mangal Thakur.
User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2007-04-04 19:45:05
Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Guru Parampara! Pranams and Blessings ! You can read about the authentic life of Shrila Bilvamangala Thakura here. He appeared even before 1000 AD which is hundreds of years before the appearance of Lord Gauranga Mahaprabhu so Shrila Sanatana Goswami was never his contemporary or his Shiksha Guru. He accepted Shrila Somagiri as his Guru and the prostitute too who showed him the way to pure devotion and Shri Vrindaavana Dhaam. It is said that his Gurudeva Shrila Somagiri mercifully gave him the same Shri Lilaasuka because of his super-excellent composition Shri Krishna Karnamrita about Shri Shri Radha Krishna's pastimes which was later relished by the Supreme Lord Gauranga Himself in Gambhira Dhaam in Puri. So he rendered this great service of writing Shri Krishna Karnarmita for Lord Gauranga even though he appeared much before His advent. By the causeless mercy of his Gurudeva, he did enter into the pastimes of Shri Shri Radha Krishna even while living, but there is no concrete proof that he lived for hundreds of years in that condition as per what you have heard. You can find more in the above link and also please search the NITAI Veda chm ebook and you will find lots of katha about him. Navin ji, I am always there to help sincere souls like yourself who are attracted to Lords Nityananda Gauranga. This can only happen if one was immaculately worshiped Lord Krishna for the past many lives as per Shrila Sarvabhauma Shataka. If possible, I suggest a quick search of the NITAI Veda chm ebook for quick answers to general philosophical questions and then one can ask on the forum for further guidance and elaboration. Thankyou Navin ji for your nice question about a pure devotee of the Lord.