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Title: "Guru is Nityananda"
User: Matus† Date: 2007-01-10 05:41:38
Dear Shri Swami Gaurangapada Gurudeva, dear devotees and site visitors
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances at Your Feet.
i am hearing often devotees to say "Guru is Nityananda".
Somehow however i get a little pensive every time i hear it. i don't know if it is correct to put Guru and Nityananda together in this manner using the verb "is". It appears to me like putting Jiva-Tattva and Vishnu-Tattva on the same level... What is the better way to express the relationship between Guru and Nityananda? Gurudeva, please kindly give Your illluminating words.
Such statement implies also the thought that taking shelter of Guru is the same as taking shelter of Nityananda. That is actually what many devotees say. i feel like there was a little misunderstanding in considering taking shelter of both of Them to be (completely) equal. What is the difference between taking shelter of Guru and taking shelter of Nityananda?
Yours gratefully and in the service of the Holy Names of Nityananda Gauranga and Hare Krishna,
Title: Re: "Guru is Nityananda"
User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2007-01-10 06:13:14
It is not necessary that the Guru word is used only for jiva tattva. Shrila Jagadananda Pandita states in Prema Vivarta...sadhu guru rupe gaura aila nadiya...Lord Gauranga advented in the form of the Guru and Sadhu in Kali Yuga.
Lord Nityananda is the source of all Gurus and Guru Tattva because He is the original servant and expansion of Lord Gauranga so there is no harm is saying Guru is Nityananda with the meaning that Lord Nityananda is the Oriignal Guru. It does not mean vice versa that every Guru is equal to Lord Nityananda.
The jiva-tattva Guru is not equal to Lord Nityananda at all. One's Gurudeva is the servant of the servant of the servants of Lord Nityananda in the Guru Parampara. When we take shelter of a bonafide Guru, the Guru explicitly instructs us to take shelter of Lord Nityananda Prabhu. We take shelter of Gurudeva who then takes us to the shelter of Lord Nityananda. The Guru cannot give shelter to any soul without the causeless mercy of Lord Nityananda. So the difference is that the Guru is always dependant on Lord Nityananda who is the Original Guru of All Gurus and personification of Guru Tattva† but Lord Nityananda is supremely independant and not dependant on anyone else. Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Guru Parampara! Pranams :pranams: and Blessings :bless:!