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Title: What becomes of material world

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2006-07-08 11:57:00


Jaya Nityananda! Jaya Gauranga! Jaya Hare Krishna!

All glories to  A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!

All glories to Bhaktiratna Sadhu Swami  Maharaja!

All glories to Vaishnavas everywhere!



 Dear Swamiji,



 Q.When the mission of Shri Gauranga Krishna Chaitanya is succesful and all the  jivas return to there natural position at the lotus feet of the Supreme lord,  what becomes of the material world? Or is there a constant influx into the  material world of jivas?


Answer by Swami Gaurangapada:




Very Good question Rama Nityananda dasa prabhu. I feel so much happiness in  responding to this question.



 The same question was asked by Lord Shri Gauranga Mahaprabhu to the His  greatest devotee Namacharya Shrila Haridasa Thakura in Shri Chaitanya  Charitamrita Antya 3.49 to 91 and onwards. Please read the above section for the  complete nectar.



 Antya 3.77



 Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu replied, “If all living entities are liberated, the  entire universe will be devoid of living beings.”



 Antya 3.78-79



haridasa bale,——“tomara yavat martye sthiti

tavat  sthavara-jangama, sarva jiva-jati

saba mukta kari’ tumi vaikunthe  pathaiba

sukshma-jive punah karme udbuddha kariba



 Haridasa said, “My Lord, as long as You are situated within the material  world, You will send to the spiritual sky all the developed moving and nonmoving  living entities in different species. Then again You will awaken the living  entities who are not yet developed and engage them in activities.



 Antya 3.80



 sei jiva habe ihan sthavara-jangama

tahate bharibe brahmanda yena  purva-sama



 “In this way all moving and nonmoving living entities will come into  existence, and the entire universe will be filled as it was previously.






 While we are preaching, opposing elements sometimes argue, “If all living  entities were delivered by the Krishna consciousness movement, what would happen  then? The universe would be devoid of living entities.” In answer to this, we  may say that in a prison there are many prisoners, but if one thinks that the  prison would be empty if all the prisoners adopted good behavior, he is  incorrect. Even if all the prisoners within a jail are freed, other criminals  will fill it again. A prison will never be vacant, for there are many  prospective criminals who will fill the prison cells, even if the present  criminals are freed by the government. As confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita  (13.22), karanam guna-sango ’sya sad-asad-yoni-janmasu: “Because of the living  entity’s association with material nature, he meets with good and evil among  various species.” There are many unmanifested living entities covered by the  mode of ignorance who will gradually come to the mode of passion. Most of them  will become criminals because of their fruitive activities and again fill the  prisons.



 Antya 3.81



 purve yena raghunatha saba ayodhya lana

vaikunthake gela, anya-jive  ayodhya bharana



 “Previously, when Lord Ramacandra left this world, He took with Him all the  living entities of Ayodhya. Then He filled Ayodhya again with other living  entities.



 Antya 3.82



 avatari’ tumi aiche patiyacha hata

keha na bujhite pare tomara gudha  nata



 “My dear Lord, You have set a plan in motion by descending to the material  world, but no one can understand how You are acting.



 Antya 3.83



 purve yena vraje krishna kari’ avatara

sakala brahmanda-jivera khandaila  samsara



 “Formerly, when Lord Krishna descended in Vrindavana, He freed all living  entities in the universe from material existence in the same way.



 Antya 3.84



 na caivam vismayah karyo

bhavata bhagavaty aje

yogesvaresvare  krishne

yata etad vimucyate



 “Krishna, the unborn Supreme Personality of Godhead, master of all masters of  mystic power, delivers all living entities, moving and nonmoving. Nothing is  astonishing in the activities of the Lord.’






This is a quotation from Shrimad-Bhagavatam (10.29.16).



 Antya 3.85



 “ayam hi bhagavan drishtah kirtitah samsmritas ca dveshanubandhenapy  akhila-surasuradi-durlabham phalam prayacchati, kim uta samyag bhaktimatam”  iti



 “‘Although the Supreme Personality of Godhead may be seen, glorified or  remembered with an attitude of envy, He nevertheless awards the most  confidential liberation, which is rarely achieved by the demigods and demons.  What, then, can be said of those who are already fully engaged in devotional  service to the Lord?’






This is a quotation from the Vishnu Purana (4.15.17).

 Antya 3.86



 taiche tumi navadvipe kari’ avatara

sakala-brahmanda-jivera karila  nistara



 “By descending as an incarnation at Navadvipa, You, just like Krishna, have  already delivered all the living entities of the universe.



 Antya 3.87



 ye kahe,——‘chaitanya-mahima mora gocara haya’

se januka, mora punah ei ta’  niscaya



 “One may say that he understands the glories of Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. He  may know whatever he may know, but as far as I am concerned, this is my  conclusion.



 Antya 3.88



 tomara ye lila maha-amritera sindhu

mora mano-gocara nahe tara eka  bindu”



 “My dear Lord, Your pastimes are just like an ocean of nectar. It is not  possible for me to conceive how great that ocean is or even to understand a drop  of it.”



 Antya 3.89



 eta suni’ prabhura mane camatkara haila

‘mora gudha-lila haridasa kemane  janila?’



 Hearing all this, Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was astonished. “These are actually  My confidential pastimes,” He thought. “How could Haridasa have understood  them?”



 Antya 3.90



 manera santoshe tanre kaila alingana

bahye prakasite e-saba karila  varjana



 Greatly satisfied by the statements of Haridasa Thakura, Shri Chaitanya  Mahaprabhu embraced him. Outwardly, however, He avoided further discussions of  these matters.



 Antya 3.91



 This is a characteristic of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Although He  wants to cover His opulence, He cannot do so before His devotees. This is well  known everywhere.