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Title: Gaudiyas

User: Unregistered†† Date: 2006-07-24 11:29:52

 

Gouranga!

All glories to all the devotees of the Lord!!!

All glories to your Nityananda-Gouranga-Hare krishna kripa!-mercy for the todays fallen souls.

 

I am simply amased !

 

After reading Shri Chaitanya Caritamrita I read Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata, and was amesed how how they "differ".So it seems.

 

Seems to me that in SCC are lovers of Gouranga-as devotee, and in SCB are the lovers of gouranga(-as God-)-Vishnu-this came to me wille i am writing this,that they are vishnu devotees,generaly(in majority),right?

 

So, can we say that devotees in SCB,and their todays followers are Vishnu-devotees--Vaishnavas.

And devotees in SCC,and thier followersare gaudiyas--Worshipers of Radha-krishna,with stres on spontanous,specific mood,similar to that of Shri Chaitanya from SCC.

 

Sincerly,yours dasanudas Rohini-dual das

 

Title: Re: Gaudiyas

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2006-07-28 18:50:17

 

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Guru Parampara! Pranams! :pranams: and Blessings! :bless: Thankyou for reading Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata and Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita. They are simply abodes of nectar.

 

Seems to me that in SCC are lovers of Gouranga-as devotee, and in SCB are the lovers of gouranga(-as God-)-Vishnu-this came to me wille i am writing this,that they are vishnu devotees,generaly(in majority),right?

 

It is true that in Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata, the bhagavatta-lila or the pastimes which show that Lord Gauranga is the Supreme Personality of Godhead are established and described in detail and in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita, pastimes of Lord Gauranga relishing the devotional moods are described, but Shrila Krishnadasa Kaviraja Goswami also establishes in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita that Lord Gauranga is the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the Adi lila and throughout the book. Lord Gauranga is the ultimate source of Lord Vishnu so devotees reading Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata cannot be simply called Vishnu tattva devotees. Lord Gauranga's mercy is very rarely attained in Vaikuntha so how can those who read Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata be called Vaikuntha devotees?

 

Infact if you read the Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata Introduction of Shri Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada, he states that Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita is a supplementary holy book to Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata. This is because only by understanding how great God is, we can understand His intimate pastimes. Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata describes so many pastimes of Lord Gauranga when He is in the mood of God, His actual position. So by fully assimilating and understanding the Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata pastimes can one understand and grasp Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita so that one does not make the mistake of just considering Lord Gauranga as a means to attaining Lord Krishna or as a devotee. That is why Shri Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada would recommend devotees to read Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata many times before reading Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita.

 

So, can we say that devotees in SCB,and their todays followers are Vishnu-devotees--Vaishnavas. And devotees in SCC,and thier followers are gaudiyas--Worshipers of Radha-krishna,with stres on spontanous,specific mood,similar to that of Shri Chaitanya from SCC.

 

The author of Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata, Shrila Vrindavana dasa Thakura is a spontaneous ragatmika devotee known as Kusumapida sakha is Shri Vraja Dhaam. And without the mercy of Lord Nityanananda, Shri Shri Radha Krishna is very far. Mercy of Lord Nityananda is obtained by reading Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata. So Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata is the highest rasika grantha not simply a holy book for only Lord Vishnu's devotees as you suggest.

 

Title: Re: Gaudiyas

User: Unregistered†† Date: 2006-07-29 18:58:46

 

Nityaaaannaaaanda!

Gouuuraaannggaaaa!

Haarre Kriishnna!

 

†† Thank you for your realised answer.!

I read That Granthas long ago,so i am going to dowload them now from your website,and relish 1. shrii Chaitanya bhagavatha and then Shrii chaitanya Caritamrita. (Just recently i bought laptop)

 

Ys.†† Rohini-dulal das