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Basic Philosophy Chat with a New Visitor
By His Holiness BRS Swami Gaurangapada


(SG = Swami Gaurangapada, G = Inquirer)


G : hare krishna

G : i want to tell u 1 thing

G : ii will need some time to absorb the concepts of Gauranga Dharma.

SG: Yes.

SG: Suree

SG: Spiritual life is voluntary and scientific

G : coz i do meditataion

G : but i nver did chanting

G : or bhajans

G : or never attended kirtans

SG: Yes Mantra Meditation is greatest meditation

SG: as per the Vedas, anavritti sabdat

G : let me get first of all convinced

G : i will start chanting mantra

SG: Yess no problem

SG: The whole creation has come from spiritual sound

G : if i feel the difference..then only i will continue

G : and i think that will take time

G : patience ..that's wat i need

SG: That is ok

G : wat if instead of the maha mantra i chant OM

SG: We chant the Mantrarajas and Mahamantra to please God

G : k

SG: and when He is pleased, we are automatically pleased

G : k

SG: because we are His part and parcels

G : k

SG: Om is an invocation of God

G : i was in baroda last month

SG: Ok

G : for a conference at the station we met a devotee


SG: Ok

G : he was from russia he was chanting krishna

G : and was selling the bhagavat geeta

G : we (my self and my students) had a talk with him

SG: Yes ok

SG: Are you a teacher?

G : ya i am lecturere

G : i teach botany

SG: Ok


G : so i was telling that we had a talk with him, he was a robber

G : when he was in russia

SG: Ok

G : ya but he is completely changed

G : the moment he told us that we were shocked

G : however he did not elaborate and we ran to catch the train

SG: Yess simply by chanting the Holy Names of God: Nityananda, Gauranga and Hare Krishna, one develops all good qualities and gives up all the bad ones in a very short time.

G : anyways we missed the train and did not find him again

G : actually my students are stuck up with the question

SG: Ohh so sorry

G : how did he change?????

G : thats bothering them till today

SG: Simply by vibrating the Holy Names of Nityananda, Gauranga and Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

SG: That is the secret and answer.

G : ok

SG: When you touch the Holy Names with your lips

SG: You come in direct contact with God

SG: and immediately you develop the qualities of God

G : ok

SG: So you can tell them the secret

G : i dont understand this philosophy, but believe it surly works coz i have seen people changing with that

SG: You should also teach your students how to chant the Holy Names of God

G : no its not easy to convince a teen

G : they have a lot of why and buts

SG: Then you will be spiritual teacher also

G : and hows

G : ya i teach them meditation

SG: You can teach how to live nicely in this world

SG: and you can teach how to end this miserable cycle of birth and death and go back to the Kingdom of God

SG: so you are permanently solving their problem

SG: 4 main problems

G : they all had been last month to one Guruís lecture

SG: of birth, old age, disease and death

G : i found one thing in common in all those who are devotees if i am not wrong

SG: Those who pose themselves as God are actually the reverse Dog

G : they are the once who already have a belief in lord 1st

SG: Real Guru means one who shows us the real God: Lord Gauranga-Krishna

SG: Real Guru never says that he is God

SG: Real Guru instructs everyone to chant the Holy Names of God not his own name

SG: otherwise he is simply a cheater

SG: Yes we have to make God 1st in our life

SG: because

G : did u find anyone who never believed in god and had no probs in life and have become devotees

SG: all our degrees, talents and qualifications

SG: are big 000000000000000000000000000s

SG: Lord Gauranga-Krishna is the 1

SG: if you put 1 before the 00000000000000000000s

SG: the valuee is so great

SG: but only 000000000s it is 00000000

SG: Yes majority of the devotees did not know about God earlier

G : i was waiting to hear the answer

SG: In the Gita it is said

SG: 4 kinds of people come to God

G : who the four

SG: (1) Distressed (2) Seeking wealth (3) Inquisitive (4) Those who are already in knowledge

SG: so all of these four becomes devotees of God and begin chanting His Holy Name

G : and what abt the rest?

SG: It is upto them

SG: Whatever you want in life

SG: you should come to the Supreme Lord Gauranga-Krishna

SG: not go to the demigods or the devatas

SG: because it is ultimately the Supreme Lord who is giving the power even to the devatas

SG: But if the soul does not desire to chant the Name of God then God does not interfere with the minute independence given by Him to that soul

G : why did u leave IIT

G : why did u get into krishna philosophy

SG: I wanted to help all the souls to end their miseries

SG: and understand their relation with God. And I had to sacrifice something for this topmost welfare work.

G : when and how did that feeling start, to help

SG: There are many doctors, lawyers, teachers

SG: But really the world requires Spiritual Guides who teach the chanting of bonafide Holy Names

SG: otherwise the soul is doomed

SG: in the 8.4 million species of life

SG: sometimes the soul becomes a dog, cat, donkey, cockroach, plant, bird, fish etc

SG: Do you like to become all this?

G : yes why not


G : if soul is a soul then y body shud matter

SG: That is because you have no idea how much suffering is there

G : its the same i suppose

SG: Yes so the emergency is to end the suffering

G : every body is born lives and dies, the same

SG: the pleasure of eating, sleeping, sex like and defending is there in all bodies


SG: even animals do that

G : yes

SG: so the human life is meant for spiritual inquiry

SG: because God has given us higher intelligence

SG: Not simply eating

SG: sleeping

SG: mating

G : i dont think so its only human beings that can be spiritual

G : may be we still dont understand the spritiuality of other forms

SG: Human beings can be more easily

SG: they have developed intelligence

G : if it werent why have they been created in this earth

SG: They can ask the question

SG: Who is God?

G : intellegence is not a way to god

G : u told me just a few mins back

SG: No that was material intelligence

SG: You need sharp spiritual intelligence to understand God

G : if its spiritual intellegence u r talking about

SG: It is not blind faith or sentimentalism

G : then even a cow or a dog holds that

SG: How do you know that

SG: Can a cow ask who is God

G : how do we know

G : whats so special abt me as a human being

SG: the animal bodies are created by God just to discharge the reactions

G : may be it is a overconfidence we have we being human beings

SG: of the papa and punya the soul has performed in the human body

SG: Human life is like a junction

SG: With this human body, you can either go to the spiritual world

SG: or come down

SG: in the animal bodies

SG: or you can temporarily become a devata or an asura, whatever you desire,

You can choose now.

G : come down

SG: That is why God always incarnates on this Earth in this universe

G : i dont believe in this, dont mind

SG: You may believe it or not

SG: You will have to face it

SG: when you die

SG: You will get a body

SG: as per your karma in this human life

SG: If you only slept whole life, you will get the body of a bear

SG: which sleeps for 6 months

SG: if you want to only eat, you will get the body of a pig

SG: with can eat anything from garbage

G : ridiculous a soul follows a body

SG: If you want to only have sex, you will get the body of pigeon

SG: who can have sex hundreds of times in a month

SG: because human body is just not meant

SG: for eating, sleeping, mating and defending

SG: otherwise we are simply sophisticated animals

G : hmm

SG: A material body is created by the soul

SG: as per one's actions

SG: in the human form of life

SG: so we can determine where our soul will go after death by what we are doing now

G : ok

G : how abt karma yog

SG: If we daily chant the Holy Names of God, then we are preparing an eternal

spiritual body for the soul in the kingdom of God

SG: from where is no return

SG: no birth, death, old age and disease

SG: Karma means action and Yoga means to connect with God or do our karma as an offering to God

SG: You do not become Karma Yogis simply by working hard like a donkey

SG: and maintaining your family

SG: where is Yoga in that

SG: Yoga means connection with God

SG: so I hope you understanding

G : yes trying to

G : but not understanding

G : i mean not getting convinced

SG: We are not asking anything material from you, but want you to chant the Holy Names of God daily

SG: God is giving you food, water, air

SG: will you not say thank you to Him daily

SG: can any scientist create

SG: a piece of grain or air or water in his lab

SG: they know h2 + O = water but can they combine and make it

SG: Noo it is God's gift

G : natures gifts

SG: Nature but whose Nature

SG: when I say Nature then it has to someone's nature

SG: Your nature, my nature, his nature

SG: her nature

SG: so Nature is the energy of God

SG: Lord Gauranga-Krishna is the Person possessing that Nature

SG: It is so simple to understand

SG: Nothing happens by chance

G : ok

SG: Do you think all the traffic signals in in your town

G : i think it ll take time for me to get convinced

SG: are all running on their own

SG: That is foolishness

SG: Some person is pulling the switch and controlling it somewhere

SG: Similarly Nature is not independent

SG: Lord Gauranga-Krishna states in the Gita

SG: mayadhyakshena prakritih

SG: The Nature is running by My direction. It is My Prakriti

SG: so we have to accept the word of God: the Gita

SG: otherwise we will forever remain confused

G : then we have to accept the word of god

SG: Yes because He is the perfect authority

SG: the source of everything

SG: so only He knows things as they are

SG: because everything has come from Him so He knows everything

SG: so I hope this is convincing

G : Yes.

SG: Thank you so much.


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Shrila Prabhupada! Pranams and Blessings!