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God or Dog
7) Nirvishesh said: Despite your reasoning, I still am not convinced. Listen to me. Once a saintly man of true spiritual vision was cooking chapattis when a dog ran off with one of them. That enlightened fellow called out, "Hey dog! Stop! Bring that chapatti back and I'll put some ghee on it for you." This realized saint saw that because everything is God, one can serve God in any of His forms. How then can you disagree with my explanation that one can do whatever he likes and still serve God.
8) Krishna das replied: One may choose to be attracted to either the pastimes of God, or reverse, to the pastimes of dog. But please consider for a moment the plight of a man attached to the pastimes of a dog. While the dog does his morning business in the street, the master is forced to hold the leash. So who, I ask, is the master of whom? The dog licks the "master's" nose, and the bewildered fellow reckons^ "Oh how my dog loves to kiss me!" The so-called master is ignorant that due to the protruding fleshy nature of the nose, it is the part of the body that the dog would eat first if the man were to die. The unthinking "master" rubs his little "pet" this way and that in fatherly love. Consequently, he develops dog-likexonsciousness and dooms himself to perdition. The dog longs for mating with a bitch in the street, while the master, a polished version of the former, needs sex in a swank brass bed. But what is the difference; they are both after the same base pleasures. But human life is not meant for living, loving, eating and dying like a dog. This valuable gift of human birth is meant for getting out of the deep dark well of material ignorance and returning to our natural liberated position of Krishna consciousness.
(9) You say that the dog is God...but how? Certainly the dog is part and parcel of God, but due to his past impiety, the jiva embodied in the body of a dog has been put into a sinful condition of life. So we must distinguish between service to God and service to dog.
10) Nirvishesh said: Perhaps it is true that we can distinguish; man, dog and all creatures have separate duties, but all are meant for the pleasure of God ultimately. For example, once a saint meditated peacefully while a scorpion stung him. An astonished well-wisher declared, "My dear sage, do you not realize that there is a scorpion stinging you?" The sage answered, "Do not worry, good man, it is the nature of the scorpion to sting, and it is my nature to get stung." Stinger or stung—whatever—it is all one.
11) Krishna das replied: This example makes perfect sense—to anyone who has been stung by the poison of impersonalism! You claim to believe that all is one, but will you live with a family of scorpions?
12) Nirvishesh said: I can see that all of your answers possess some value, but I think that I have detected a certain flaw. Now it has been stated by certain masters that "those who know do not speak, and those who speak do not know." For example, if one knocks upon the side ot an empty water pot, then a loud sound can be heard. But knock upon the side of a full water pot and you will hear nothing. This proves that words are the device of the ignorant. Those who are full in knowledge have no use for words. So what is the value of all of your arguments?
13) Krishna Ms replied: A proper analogy is supposed to com-pare many similarities between otherwise unrelated items. The more similarities one can find between them, the better the analogy. I ask you, Nirvishesh, am I a water pot? (14) This empty water pot example of yours is also too full of holes to hold water from a philosophical point of view. You have stated that utter silence alone can represent the Absolute Truth. So you have employed speaking in order to tell me that truth is found in silence alone. Therefore your logic defeats itself. Your statement would crumble at a child's touch like poorly fired clay.
14) Of course great saintly persons may observe the vow of maunam, or silence, for long periods of time, but after their meditation they distribute their amassed wealth of clear knowledge by preaching to the receptive. They are just like great waterfalls of fresh clear water which sometimes come tumbling from the hills and sometimes cease to flow.
15) Nirvishesh said: These arguments sound very convincing, but I can understand why I have been unable to get past them. Although 1 am God and therefore all-knowing, it is because I have forgotten I am God that this failure on my part has arisen. When I succeed in my meditation and realize my supreme divinity, then I will come back and argue with you some more. But first 1 must borrow enough money to pay my guru for a secret mantra that is adapted exclusively to my vibrations.
(17) Krishna das replied: "Can you still claim to be God? I see that you have now become an unrealized God. According to the dictionary, the word "God" means "supreme controller." How is it that the supreme controller has become confounded by His own illusory energies? What kind of a god falls prey to the deluding potency that he creates to confound mortals such as our bewildered selves? If r. the Lord actually becomes a victim M\ of maya, then maya—or Satan— is greater than God. Nor can you purchase your way to immortality by bribing a cheater in the local "guru bargain basement." If this mantra is, however, such a great thing that it can make you into the Supreme Lord, then what is the use of keeping it a secret?
Those who pretend to profess the truth while actually floundering in ignorance mislead others and destroy themselves -like serpents crawling over a hill of red ants.
18) A chain with a weak link will save nobody from a deep well. Similarly, if even one flaw is found in a philosophy, the entire doctrine must be discarded as useless for it will deliver nobody from the dark well of birth and death.
19) Remember I mentioned a traveler who, stranded in the desert, thirsted for water when he saw a mirage? Although the mirage was not able to satisfy his thirst, still it proved a very important point. That is, the traveler would not have become mad after water upon seeing the mirage if real water did not exist somewhere else. Similarly, you have successfully proven yourself to be a "mirage god," but by the same token you have succeeded in proving the existence of a true God beyond yourself. For this service "Guru Mirage" and the innumerable other bogus incarnations presently stalking the earth for fame and wealth are to be commended!
20) It is clear what is actually at the root of the mayavadi's philosophy: envy of God. Does a king appreciate an insignifi-cant subject who appoints himself to sit upon the throne?
21) One who is puffed-up with borrowed plumes is as blind as the eyes that adorn the feathers of a peacock.
22) Nirvishesh, understand the lesson that nature has presented by showing us the tree burdened with ripe fruit, or the cloud filled with fresh water. As both of these hang low, so is a truly knowledgeable man humble. Only an arrogant upstart can pose as the all-knowing Supreme Lord.
23) Krishna said to Arjuna on the battlefield, "Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth." (BG 4.34) Bear in mind that a pretentious and challenging bluff can never win the ripened fruit of transcendental knowledge.
(25) Once a warrior approached a holy man in order to find the way to knowledge. "Hey monk, teach me the differ ence between the path to hellish ignorance and the path to spiritual illumination," the proud soldier demanded. The monk, noting the warrior's over-abundance of self-esteem remarked, "You call yourself a soldier? Why, you're nothing but a poor excuse for a water boy!" The soldier's eyes flared like burning embers as he unsheathed and raised high his sword in order to behead the talkative monk. "Now you are on the path to hellish ignorance," the monk said gently. The soldier realized his vanity and threw down his sword. He bowed low at the feet of the holy sage. "Now you are on the path to knowledge," the monk said. Nirvishesh, I wish to make one request of you and one request only because you are such a learned gentleman: Please give up your nonsense and surrender heart and soul to Shri Krishna!