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Srila Prabhupada On 64 Rounds

Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2006-05-05 05:30:47
Title: Shrila Prabhupada On 64 Rounds
User: Damodara Svarupa dasa    Date: 2005-02-22 07:13:23

Shrila Prabhupada On 64 Rounds -- By Swami Gaurangapada


SO YOU HAVE TO INCREASE (THE CHANTING). THAT IS THE ONLY REMEDY.

DETERMINATION TO CHANT 64 ROUNDS IS DRDHA-VRATAH.

(CONCLUSION: IF THE MATERIAL FEVER IS NOT BEING DIMINISHED, CHANTING
64 ROUNDS IS THE ONLY REMEDY IN THE WORDS OF SRILA PRABHUPADA IN
THE FOLLOWING MORNING WALK.)

Morning Walk, May 14, 1975, Perth:

Devotee (1): Shrila Prabhupada, how can the position be reconciled if
in Krishna consciousness one of the two, the husband or the wife, wants
to enjoy sense gratification, but the other does not? Should there be
separation then?

Prabhupada: No... They should be trained up. Sense enjoyment means
not advanced in Krishna consciousness. As soon as one is advancing in
Krishna consciousness, his sense enjoyment spirit will be reduced. That
is the test.

Bhaktih paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra ca . The test is,
how you are advancing in Krishna consciousness is the proportionate
diminishing of sense enjoyment. That is the test. Just like cure of
the disease means diminishing the fever, temperature. This is the
test.

Devotee (1): What if that fever is not being diminished?

Prabhupada: Then he should try to chant Hare Krishna mantra, instead of
sixteen rounds, sixty-four rounds. That is the way. Sixteen round is
the minimum. Otherwise Haridasa Thakura was 300,000. So you have to
increase.

That is the only remedy. If one has got determination, he will make
progress without any trouble. That determination is very difficult,
that determination, "I must be Krishna conscious fully." That
determination.

Drdha-vratah.

TRY TO INCREASE (FROM 48 TO 64) BUT NEVER DECREASE YOUR CHANTING.

IF YOU ARE ABLE TO CHANT MORE THAN 16 ROUNDS UP TO 64 IT IS VERY GOOD.

Letter to: Indira (Iris Mendoza), Ekayani (Esther Mendoza), San
Francisco, 17 December, 1967

"I am very glad to learn you are chanting 48 rounds. Actually it is
all right that one should chant 64 rounds, even 16 rounds, so if one
is able to chant more than 16 rounds up to 64, it is very good. You
fix up your rounds.

Try to increase it but never decrease it."

{Note: Indira is fairly new devotee at that time.)

VERY GOOD AND VERY NICE IF YOU CAN DO IT (CHANT 64 ROUNDS):

Letter to: Hamsaduta, Hawaii, 23 March, 1969

"Yes, it is very good if you can chant 64 rounds; this is very nice
if you can do it."

PRABHUPADA PRESCRIBED 64 ROUNDS WHEN DEVOTEES WERE IN TROUBLE WITH
THEIR SENSES:

Letter to: Bhaktijana, Los Angeles, 12 February, 1968

"I shall advise you again to chant always, increasing the counting,
namely, 16 rounds is generally prescribed, but for the time being you
can stop all other activities and increase the chanting to 64 rounds."

That is the instruction given by Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu in His
Siksastaka 3. Kirtaniyah sada harih:  "The holy name
of the Lord should be chanted twenty-four hours daily." Therefore in
this Krishna consciousness movement we request the devotees to chant at
least sixteen rounds on their beads daily. Actually one has to chant
twenty-four hours daily, just like Thakura Haridasa, who was chanting
the Hare Krishna mantra three hundred thousand times daily. Indeed, he
had no other business. (Shrimad-Bhagavatam 4.24.70 purport)

IF YOU CAN'T SURRENDER TO KRSNA, FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF HARIDASA
THAKURA BY CHANTING CONSTANTLY ON BEADS

Surrender is the ultimate instruction of the Bhagavad-gita, but for
one who cannot surrender to the lotus feet of Krishna, it is better to
chant the Hare Krishna mantra constantly, under the instruction of
Haridasa Thakura.

In our Krishna consciousness movement we are teaching our followers to
chant the Hare Krishna mantra continuously on beads. Even those who are
not accustomed to this practice are advised to chant at least sixteen
rounds on their beads so that they may be trained. Sada
means "always." Haridasa Thakura says, nirantara nama lao: "Chant the
Hare Krishna mantra without stopping." One's real duty is to
surrender to the lotus feet of Krishna, but if one is unable to do so,
he should adopt this process, as introduced by Shri Chaitanya
Mahaprabhu and His most confidential servant, Namacarya Shrila
Haridasa Thakura. This is the way to achieve success in Krishna
consciousness. (Shri Chaitanya-charitamrita Antya-lila 3.137)

(Note: Apart from this there are innumerable quotes by Prabhupada
throughout Bhagavatam & Cc on the necessity of constantly chanting
the holy names. A daily discipline of chanting 64 rounds is a great
boost to come up to the stage of constant chanting imho.)

FIRST INITIATION BY SRILA PRABHUPADA

The Hare Krishna Explosion, p. 63, by Hayagriva dasa, Palace Press
1985.

"Now that you have beads," Swamiji says the next morning, "you should
chant sixty-four rounds every day." "Sixty-four rounds?" To pronounce
every word of the mantra distinctly, we require five minutes to chant
a round. Sixty-four rounds would take over five hours. "Impossible!"
we say. "We'll never have the time." "All right," Swamiji
says. "Thirty-two rounds." "Impossible," we say. "We'll never be able
to do it. It's way too much." "All right," Swamiji says. "Sixteen
rounds. No less."

TKG's Diary June 10

Many years ago (Shrila Prabhupada), he was chanting sixty-four rounds,
then gradually less, until a number of years ago it was sixteen.

____________________

CONCLUSION: What follows are my personal realizations and/or feelings
about the process of chanting 64 rounds daily. I appeal to all the
sara-grahi vaishnavas to kindly take the good points and please don't
challenge me for some of them if they disagree.

If one can discharge his practical devotional services and manage to
chant 64 rounds then it is the best. Chanting 64 rounds should not be
an excuse to escape doing one's services or the daily program of
sadhana-bhakti given by Prabhupada. If a devotee has genuine desire
to chant 64 rounds then he will find out the way without disturbing
anybody. As far as I know there is not a single written instruction
or statement from Prabhupada discouraging devotees to chant 64 rounds
if they could manage to do it alongwith their other services. Also
chanting 64 rounds in the association of devotees while engaged in
services related to preaching can never be considered nirjana-
bhajana. Ofcourse the devotees who chant 64 rounds should not get
puffed up and look down on other devotees who don't chant 64. They
should feel themselves as so contaminated and fallen that chanting 64
rounds daily is the only hope for them to steadily remain in Krishna
consciousness.

Also if one chants 64 rounds with attachment then it automatically
brings a great upsurge of humility and ecstacy in one's heart. One
becomes jubilant in deep rememberance of the Lord's pastimes and
constantly aspires to become the servant of the servant. And one
becomes totally enthusiastic to preach vigorously (jive doya). One's
preaching becomes unlimitedly more effective and can convert sinful
people into devotees even by preaching only a little. This is simply
due to the potency of the holy name and anyone can experience it of
one increases the chanting without compromising on the quality &
distinct pronunciation of the chanting. One can achieve the stage of
nishtha or real madhyama-adhikari platform crossing the stage of
anartha-nivrtti very quickly (maybe maximum of 10 years) by chanting
64 rounds everyday while trying to avoid the ten offenses and if one
is surrendered to one's guru.

One can beg from the guru his permission and blessings to chant 64
rounds. If one gets it then one will surely be successful very
quickly (I can give furthur sastric references which state that the
progress is very quick if one sincerely chants an increased no. of
rounds without an ulterior motive and that without increasing the
chanting there is no other way.) Just like the prostitute who became
a pure devotee very quickly simply by chanting 3,00,000 names daily
on the instruction of her guru Haridasa Thakura. According to
Bhagavatam, Padma Purana, Hari-nama-cintamani, Prema-vivarta etc.
chanting constantly is the only means to keep the namaparadhas from
constantly attacking us. Side by side one has to deeply study the 10
offenses and conscientiously try to avoid each of them. Also one
should have great attachment for Lord Gaura & Lord Nityananda's name,
pastimes, dhama and associates which very quickly renders our
chanting of Hare Krishna offenseless.

There is an even more quicker way. If one chants 64 rounds or more
while residing in Navadvipa-dhama, then according to Nityananda
Prabhu and Thakura Bhaktivinoda in Navadvipa-dhama-parikrama, one
gets pure love of Radha-Krishna very very quickly even though one may
be full of offenses in the very beginning. One has to chant in
Navadvipa with sambandha-jnana with Lord Chaitanya and in a humble
state of mind. Ofcourse it may not be possible for all devotees.

Just one more point as food for thought. Many yogis and jnanis
perform their sadhana for hours together daily. We have got the
highest and most sublime process of self-realiztion which is chanting
the Hare Krishna maha-mantra. The chanting is fully capable in and of
itself to award us the greatest gift of love of God. There is nothing
else required. And we give only 1 1/2 to 2 hours daily for chanting
16 rounds and feel we that we have done a lot of sadhana. Comparing
to 24 hours everyday 2 hours is nothing. We have the greatest means
of sadhana available, the Hare Krishna maha-mantra as given by Lord
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (the combined form of Radha and Krishna who comes
only in once in one day of Brahma) and we do it for only 2 hrs
everyday out of 24 hours. This may not be the most effective use of
the human form of life. If someone gets the most valuable jewel in
the world, then he will always keep it with him.

To chant 64 rounds daily it may take 5 1/2 6 or 7 or 8 hours. But
what is that compared to the greatest gift which we are going to
receive in return i.e. pure love for Radha & Krishna and eligibility to
enter Goloka Vrindavan and put an end to all over miseries once and
for all.

LOOK FOR THE NEXT SEGMENT: LORD CAITANYA & THE ACARYAS ON 64 ROUNDS.

(A comprehensive collection of quotes)

Your aspiring servant, BR Sadhu Swami



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