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Audio of Proper Mantra Pronunciation

Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2007-11-27 17:34:43
Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Shri Guru Parampara! Pranams! I just posted an audio comment here with the proper pronunciation of the Nityananda, Gauranga, and Hare Krishna Mantras and an explanation about which can possibly be the incorrect pronunciations. I am posting this just incase you miss that comment. For further discussion about this please comment on that post.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.


Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2007-12-01 01:19:31
Yes, that is due to Shrila Swami Prabhupada's Bengali accent. Shrila Prabhupada, being a pure devotee, is fully imbued with ecstatic devotional emotions for the Lord while singing the Holy Names of the Lord. We have to try to follow the strict Sanskrit pronunciations of the Mantras according to Shrila Swami Prabhupada's teachings and the scriptures rather than try to imitate him because we are not on his advanced platform and we need all the mercy we can get. The exact pronunciation is "Raama" not "Raamah" or "Raamoh".

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2007-12-01 01:20:34
The comment link is given in the above post. Please check again. I will try to add another audio comment while chanting the Pancha Tattva Mantra and Pancha Tattva Stava as I missed both of Them in the above Mantra pronunciation comment. Thanks. Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!

Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2007-12-01 09:41:16
Raamo is not exactly the vocative of Raama. The last syllable of the Holy Name of Raama in the Hare Krishna Mahamantra is "ma" not "mo". So it should be chanted accordingly. Raamo and Raamah are accordingly used in Sanskrit verses when the name Raama is to be denoted in a line of a verse along with another Sanskrit conjunctions and syllable placements but they are not vocatives of Raama. The original Name remains Raama.

The devotional mood of the singer is also important while chanting the Name. A sincere kirtana singer devotee should make a special attempt to sing with proper pronunciation of the Mantra he or she is singing so that everyone receives the full benefit of the Holy Names. The tune should be adapted to fit the right pronunciation of the Mantras and not vice versa. In a Mantra, we cannot modify or interchange the Holy Names. Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2007-12-01 10:58:13
Thanks Igor for the wonderful verses. I modified my previous reply about Raama and Raamo. Please read it again.

Raadhe is vocation for Raadhaa and so is Hare for Haraa. The Holy Names of the Lord contain everything. Thus the Names Themselves convert into a vocative cry to the Lord if chanted with mood of crying out to the Lord. Just like we chant, Nityaananda...Gauraanga loudly. It is crying out the Names. There is no need to worry about the vocative forms of the Names. Some Holy Names may have vocative forms, some may not. The Holy Names Themselves are vocative in the highest sense. Like Lord Gauranga cried out...krishna krishna krishna krishna krishna krishna krishna he...When the Name of Krishna is cried out with intense feeling, it automatically becomes vocative in the form of addressing the Lord. One need not have to modify the Names or need Their vocative counterpartds to make them vocative. It is the consciousness by which we chant Them imbues Them with the corresponding mood. This is beauty of our Vedic Mantras and Holy Names. I hope this helps.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2007-12-01 16:28:52
Dear Damodara Svarupa dasa, Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! You are sincerely trying to follow our beloved Shiksha Guru Shrila Swami Prabhupada and that is enough to please the Lord. Please don't feel sad. You can please continue to chant in the way you feel most close to Shrila Swami Prabhupada. That is most important. We can only chant the Holy Names with the mercy of our Acharyas. I was in no way referring to you when I spoke of imitation. I was just making a general philosophical point in regards to Tattva.

The only thing which I was suggesting is that since Shrila Swami Prabhupada has a Bengali accent, it may sound to us as "Nitaananda" but actually he is chanting "Nityaananda". The second syllable is "tya" not "ta" in the Holy Name "Nityaananda". "Nitya" means eternal. "Nita" has a different meaning. Since we do not have a Bengali accent, we should try to pronounce "Nityananda" as best as we can.. That will please Shrila Swami Prabhupada. This was my humble suggestion.

The Pancha Tattva Mantra is delineated in his books and is perfect. The discussion was about whether to chant "jaya" or "bhaja" before the Pancha Tattva Mantra. I already said that it was not a problem at all as the Pancha Tattva Mantra itself is more like a Song Prayer to the five most merciful Forms of God in Kali Yuga. And so one can add "jaya" or "glories" and "bhaja" or "worship" before a prayer song. I hope this is helpful.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

Post Author: Bhakta Igor    Date: 2007-12-01 09:31:28
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
"The exact pronunciation is “Raama?not “Raamah?or “Raamoh?"

In kirtans devotees sometimes singing Raama with O on the end - Hare Raamo. Is it vocative form of Raama? Is it correct or not to chant it on that way in kirtan, because in some tunes it is present.
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

Post Author: Bhakta Igor    Date: 2007-12-01 10:33:02
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
Thank you for answer. I have more questions. We are chanting Hare Krsna, and Hare is in vocative form. Is Hara nominative form of Hare? Like Radhe - Radha? But in the same moment I can understand that vocative form is also he radha or he raama ?O Radha or O Raama? What is right vocative form of Names ?Krsna, Radha and Raama and also Nityananda and Gauranga?

I found two verses in Maha-mantrartha-vyakhya by Jiva Goswami where is name /word Raamo (this is only transliteration that I have)
(13)
ramayaty acyutam premna nikunja-vana-mandire
rama nigadiha radha ramo yutas taya punah

In a temple forest groves, Radharani brings the infallible Krishna to the pinnacle of joy with Her love. Therefore She is called Rama. Since Krishna is always by Her side, He is known as Rama.

(14)
rodanair gokule davanalam asayati hi asau
vinosayati tenokto ramo bhakta-sukhavaha

When Krishna heard the cries of the Vrajavasis, who were afraid of the forest fire, He quickly swallowed it up, drying their tears. By giving them joy in this way, He is known as Rama.

So if we want to cry out and call for Lord ?O Krsna, O Raama, O Nityananda ?what is correct vocative form of Names?
Thank you so much.

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

Post Author: Bhakta Igor    Date: 2007-12-01 11:08:58
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
Yes, dear Gurudeva, everything is clear now! Therefore let us cry out Nityananda! Nityananda! Gauranga! Gauranga!

Post Author: Bhakta Igor    Date: 2007-12-03 17:13:54
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
All glories to Srilla Prabhupada!
All glories to Swami Gaurangapada!

All original major books about Lord Gauranga and Lord Nityananda are on bengali(Caitanya Caritamrta, Caitanya Bhagavata etc.), and Their Lordships appeared in Bengal. My question is - does in spiritual world bengali language exist? What is language of Navadvipa in spiritual world? Is it bengali? I can not imagine that in spiritual Navadvipa mother Saci speaking sanskrit to Nimaai. sri-gauda-mandala-bhumi jeba jane cintamani Navadvipa is completely spiritual, and my question is does it include language of Navadvipa also? Bengali is soft, melodious like pastimes of Lord Gauranga Krsna, perfect for glorification and singing about Lord Gauranga Krsna.
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

Post Author: Bhakta Igor    Date: 2007-12-03 21:18:05
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
Well I am confuse a little.
What is corect sylable transliteration
GAU RA A NGA or
GAU RA AN GA or
GAU RAA NGA

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

Post Author: Damodara Svarupa dasa    Date: 2007-11-27 21:35:12
Nityananda, Gauranga, Hare Krishna!
Jaya guru Parampara! Jaya Swamiji Gaurangapada!

My dearest Swamiji Gaurangapada,

It seems we're missing a link to this audio comment. I hope the Pancha Tattva Mantra and Pancha Tattva Stava are included for correct pronounciation...

Haribol

Post Author: Damodara Svarupa dasa    Date: 2007-11-30 20:33:53
Nityananda, Gauranga, Hare Krishna!
Jaya guru Parampara! Jaya Swamiji Gaurangapada!

My dearest Swamiji Gaurangapada,

How does this compare with certain songs by Shrila Prabhupada (like in some of the Pancha Tattva songs), where the name Of Lord Nityananda sounds more like "Nitananda"? And the name of the Lord Caitanya sounds more like 'Chetanna'? Or is this more the Bengali way of pronouncing the Lord's name? The way You pronounce these Holy Names, is this according to the Sanskrit rules? The same is like 'Ramah' versus 'Ramoh', very confusing...

Yours in service,
Damodara Svarupa dasa

Post Author: Damodara Svarupa dasa    Date: 2007-12-01 16:06:00
Nityananda, Gauranga, Hare Krishna!

My dearest Swamiji Gaurangapada,

>>We have to try to follow the strict Sanskrit pronunciations of the Mantras according to Shrila Swami Prabhupada’s teachings and the scriptures rather than try to imitate him because we are not on his advanced platform and we need all the mercy we can get.<<

When I heard Shrila Prabhupada pronouncing "Nitananda", I've been following His example ever since. I also chant the Pancha Tattva the way He taught it in many of His prayers/songs. I don't think I'm imitating Him, as I just try to repeat the words as I hear them. All these grammar things, make me rather sad. I pray the Lord gives me enough insight to understand this topic.

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