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Shrila Prabhupada on NG Naam and Pancha Tattva Mantra

Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2006-01-14 16:27:11
Title: Shrila Prabhupada on NG Naam and Pancha Tattva Mantra
User: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2006-06-03 05:49:19

Q. Dear Swami Gaurangapada, Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to His Divine Grace Shrila Prabhupada.

I am interested in learning more about the necessity of first taking shelter of Gaura-Nitai, but since I am unfamiliar with you I have a question from your presentation of Shrila Prabhupada's quotes on the importance of first taking shelter of their Lordships.  I hope you do not consider this offensive, but I have an honest inquiry: You state (in so many words, which I've paraphrased from memory) that, "Unfortunately, Shrila Prabhupada has only told us to chant the Pancha-tattva mantra three times." Does this imply that Shrila Prabhupada should have told us to chant it more?  Why did he not ask us to chant the names of Gauranga and Nityananda?  And what is the shastric basis for your answer to the previous question?  I beg forgiveness for any offenses, I'm simply ignorant and inquiring to understand better.

Best wishes always, Your Servant, Aaron.

Answer by Swami Gaurangapada:

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Thanks Aaron for the question. I have explained this earlier but I will do it again. Shrila Prabhupada was perfectly right in not telling us to chant the Pancha Tattva Mantra on beads as regular japa as the Pancha Tattva in that form was not chanted on beads by any of the previous Acharyas. So he gave the Pancha Tattva Mantra to us as a Starter Mantra to our japa and kirtana. But the four-syllable Gauranga (Gaura Gopala Mantra) was chanted on beads by the previous acharyas like Shrila Shivananda Sena so it is an authorized process. So I used the word "unfortunate" not in regards to Shrila Prabhupada but in regards to  the souls who would thus get the opportunity to chant Pancha Tattva Mantra only as a starter Mantra and not as a regular Mantra. Of course this is also as per the scriptures so nothing is unfortunate in the absolute sense and ultimately the souls have got Nityananda Gauranga Naam to chant regularly on japa beads.

Shrila Prabhupada has surely told us to very regularly chant the two Holy Names of Lord Nityananda and Lord Gauranga in many places in his books and teachings. But he himself may not have practically implemented it as the Acharyas are fully aware of the right time, place and circumstances when Lord Nityananda wanted this to be revealed. So they always leave something for the followers due to their causeless mercy. But they give everything in their writings and teachings so that their humble followers can implement it later on if so desired by the Lord. Just like the second Gayatri Mantra Initiation was introduced by Shri Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada in our parampara for the first time because is was the desire of Lord Nityananda.

Ofcourse we whole-heartedly worship those devotees who dont chant the Holy Names of Nityananda and Gauranga regularly along with the Pancha Tattva and the Hare Krishna Mahamantra and chant only the Pancha Tattva Mantra three times before the chanting of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra and fully accept them as bonafide followers of Shrila Prabhupada's teachings. But on the same hand, we understand that our understanding of Shrila Prabhupada and the Acharyas' teachings about regularly chanting the Nityananda and Gauranga Mantrarajas along with the Pancha Tattva Mantra and the Hare Krishna Mahamantras is also bonafide and authenticated by all our Guru Varga Acharyas and Lord Nityananda Himself as described in great detail in my book: Nityananda Gauranga Naam: "
http://www.naam-yoga.com/ngn.html".

So we are non-sectarian followers of Lords Nityananda Gauranga and Shrila Prabhupada and we greatly respect and worship all devotees of Lords Nityananda Gauranga in all bonafide Gaudiya Vaishnava institutions in our line who are open-minded to the chanting of most merciful Holy Names in creation: Nityananda and Gauranga, along with the Hare Krishna Mahamantra. Of course, due to their sincere devotional practices and services, we also respect those devotees who are close-minded and critical in this regard but we would like to maintain a distance from them so that we do not have to hear any minimization of Nityananda Gauranga Naam.

We have absolutely no desire to force anything on anyone and thus we will continue to vigorously preach the most merciful Nityananda, Gauranga and Hare Krishna Naam to the totally new souls in this world who are in deep ignorance about the mercy of Lords Nityananda Gauranga. My experience in Bangalore, Gujarat and Mumbai has been that many times new souls (fresh canditates) accept Nityananda Gauranga Naam much more easily and straightforwardly then existing and practicing devotees who sometimes have many complicated questions and doubts. So the goal is not to try to teach something higher (it is already there in the scriptures) or try to change the existing devotees since they are already on the right path but to reach out with the most merciful Nityananda, Gauranga and Hare Krishna Naam to new conditioned souls who are totally ignorant of this great mercy.

Shrila Prabhupada does instruct us to very regularly chant the Holy Names of Nityananda and Gauranga as clearly evident from the quotes below:

Shrila Prabhupada in Cc Antya-lila 2.31 purport: “Worshipers of Shri Gaurasundara accept the four syllables gau-ra-an-ga as the Gaura mantra, but pure worshipers of Radha and Krishna accept the four syllables ra-dha krs-na as the Gaura-gopala mantra. However, Vaishnavas consider Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu nondifferent from Radha-Krishna (shri-krishna-chaitanya radha-krishna nahe anya). Therefore one who chants the mantra “gauranga” and one who chants the names of Radha and Krishna are on the same level.”

(Shrila Prabhupada in Cc Adi 8.31 purp)”A neophyte student who is not sufficiently educated or enlightened should not indulge in the worship of Shri Radha and Krishna or the chanting of the Hare Krishna mantra. Even if he does so, he cannot get the desired result. One should therefore chant the names of Nitai-Gaura and worship Them without false prestige. In the beginning one should very regularly chant Shri Gaurasundara’s holy name and then chant the holy name of Lord Nityananda. Thus one's heart will be cleansed of impure desires for material enjoyment. Then one can approach Vrndavana-dhama to worship Lord Krishna."

Prabhupada: “Now, what is the difference, Nitai-Gauranga and Hare Krishna? Nitai-Gauranga and Hare Krishna, there is no difference. Nitai-Gauranga is also nice. Whatever he finds convenient, let him chant.” (Shrila Prabhupada's Room Conversation with Yoga Student specifically regarding Japa, March 14, 1975, Iran)

“It is very beneficial to chant the names shri-krishna-chaitanya prabhu-nityananda before chanting the Hare Krishna maha-mantra because by chanting these two holy names -shri-krishna-chaitanya prabhu-nityananda-one immediately becomes ecstatic, and if he then chants the Hare Krishna maha-mantra he becomes free of offenses.” (SP in Cc Adi 8.24 purport)

Shrila Prabhupada in Cc Adi-lila 8.31 purport: “It should be noted in this connection that the holy names of Lord Krishna and Gaurasundara are both identical with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore one should not consider one name to be more potent than the other. Considering the position of the people of this age, however, the chanting of Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s name is more essential than the chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra because Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is the most magnanimous incarnation and His mercy is very easily achieved.”

On board the ship Jaladuta, September 13, 1965, Verse 3, by Shrila Prabhupada: “By his (my Guru Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada’s) strong desire, The Holy Name of Gauranga will first spread throughout all the countries of the Western world. Then in all the cities, towns, and villages on the earth, from all the oceans, seas, rivers, and streams, everyone will chant the Hare Krishna Mahamantra.”

Shrila Prabhupada’s Letter to: Niranjana, Brooklyn, 21 May, 1973: “You mention that they have not even heard of Lord Gauranga. So that is their misfortune, and our misfortune also. _________________ in India, they could not preach Lord Gauranga’s name all over India.”

Shrila Prabhupada in Cc Madhya 24.330: “The spiritual master has to select a mantra for his disciple according to the disciple’s ability to chant different mantras.”

Shrila Prabhupada’s Letter to: Shachimata, Bombay, 8 December, 1974: “It is the advice of Narottama das Thakura to chant the holy name of Gauranga either if one remains at home or in the forest. Similarly, do not forget the chanting of the Hare Krishna mantra either you live in the temple or at home.”

Shrila Prabhupada in Shrimad-Bhagavatam Lecture 2.1.2, Vrndavana, March 17, 1974: “Then you become gosvami. Then, as Narottama dasa Thakura says, grhe va banete thake ha gauranga bole dake. Ha gauranga, ‘Always chanting Nitai-Gaura, and thinking of Nitai-Gaura,’ such person, Narottama dasa Thakura says... Grhe va... ‘He may be a sannyasi, or he may be a grhastha. It doesn't matter. Because he is absorbed in the thought of Nitai-Gaura.’ So narottama mage tanra sanga: ‘Narottama is always desiring to associate with such person.’”

Shrila Prabhupada in Shri Chaitanya-charitamrita class, Adi-lila 7.4, Mayapur, March 4, 1974: “Narottama dasa Thakura is aspiring for the day when Nityananda Prabhu will be pleased upon him. Just like Jagai-Madhai was delivered by the mercy of Shri Nityananda Prabhu, so we have to pray Nityananda Prabhu. He's very merciful. He's so kind, Baladeva, He gives spiritual strength. Then we can approach the Supreme Lord. Therefore we chant “Nitai-Gaura.” This is the process. We cannot change this policy.”

Shrila Prabhupada in Krishna Book Chp 20, Description of Autumn: “Shrila Narottama dasa Thakura prays that he will have the association of a person-either a householder or a man in the renounced order of life-who is engaged in the transcendental loving service of the Lord and is always crying the holy name of Lord Chaitanya.”

Shrila Prabhupada in SB 1.5.16 purport: “The expert devotees also can discover novel ways and means to convert the nondevotees in terms of particular time and circumstance. Devotional service is dynamic activity, and the expert devotees can find out competent means to inject it into the dull brains of the materialistic population. Such transcendental activities of the devotees for the service of the Lord can bring a new order of life to the foolish society of materialistic men.”

Shrila Prabhupada in Cc Adi 7.31-32 purport: “Here is an important point. Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu wanted to invent a way to capture the Mayavadis and others who did not take interest in the Krishna consciousness movement. This is the symptom of an acarya. An acarya who comes for the service of the Lord cannot be expected to conform to a stereotype, for he must find the ways and means by which Krishna consciousness may be spread.”

Shrila Prabhupada during a Room Conversation, August 14, 1971, London: Prabhupada: No. We are recommending “Chant the holy name of God.” So if you have got the holy name of God, you can chant that. Prabhupada: Anyway, if one chants Allah or Jesus Christ, we have no objection. We don’t say that you stop it. We say that you chant the holy name of God. If that name is of God, you chant.”

Title: Re: Shrila Prabhupada and Nityananda Gauranga Naam
User: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2006-06-07 11:32:10

Swami Gaurangapada, Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to HDG Shrila Prabhupada, gaura bhakta vrinda ki jaya! Thank you for your thoughtful reply and posting.  I apologize for requiring so much of your time and I appreciate your consideration. I hope you are very well and wish you the best always.

Your Servant,Aaron

Title: Re: Shrila Prabhupada on NG Naam and Pancha Tattva Mantra
User: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2006-07-06 11:14:15

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! There are some recent questions to the chanting of Nityananda Gauranga Naam which have raised and I would address here in short.

Shrila Prabhupada: You have to take that. Not that you can say, nitai-gaura radhe-syama, hare krishna hare rama, no. Why? Is there any in the sastra? No, you have invented. What is the value of your invention? You are not perfect. But they like that "It is my guru, I have got some followers, I invent some type of chanting." This is nonsense. You must follow, mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. You cannot invent. (Lecture by Shrila Prabhupada: Shrimad-Bhagavatam 5.5.14 -- Vrndavana, November 2, 1976)

Here Shrila Prabhupada is talking of the invented "bhaja nitai gaura radhe shyam hare krishna hare rama" mantra, but Shrila Prabhupada would never say the same thing about Gauranga, the authorized 4-syllable Gaura Gopala Mantra, which has been chanted by Shrila Shivananda Sena, Lord Nityananda and our Acharyas.

You must follow, mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. You cannot invent.

That is Shrila Prabhupada's basic point. Do not invent. He confirms this point below:

Shrila Prabhupada during a Room Conversation, August 14, 1971, London: Prabhupada: No. We are recommending? Chant the holy name of God.? So if you have got the holy name of God, you can chant that. Prabhupada: Anyway, if one chants Allah or Jesus Christ, we have no objection. We don?t say that you stop it. We say that you chant the holy name of God. If that name is of God, you chant.?

Shrila Prabhupada is raising objections about chanting the concocted and manufactured Mantras which have not been revealed in the authorized Vedic scriptures. But the Gauranga Mantra never falls into this category.

Shrila Prabhupada himself authorizes the Gauranga Mantra in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita Antya-lila 2.31 purport: “Worshipers of Shri Gaurasundara ACCEPT the four syllables gau-ra-an-ga as the Gaura mantra, but pure worshipers of Radha and Krishna accept the four syllables ra-dha krs-na as the Gaura-gopala mantra. However, Vaishnavas consider Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu nondifferent from Radha-Krishna (shri-krishna-chaitanya radha-krishna nahe anya). Therefore one who chants the mantra “gauranga” and one who chants the names of Radha and Krishna are on the SAME LEVEL.”

So we see on one hand Shrila Prabhupada criticizes the invented Mantras and on the other hand Shrila Prabhupada glorifies the Gauranga Mantra by explicitly and clearly stating that Gauranga Mantra chanters and Hare Krishna Mantra chanters are on the same level. So it is clearly and unarguably refuted that the topmost Gauranga Mantra does not fall into this category of invented Mantras. Thus all the quotes of Shrila Prabhupada about the invented rasabhasa Mantras should never be used for the Gauranga (Gaura Gopala) Mantra otherwise it will be a big offense to the authorized Gauranga Naam which can be chanted both in japa and kirtana as done by Shrila Shivananda Sena.

Argument: Today it is common to hear kirtanas composed of words such as: "Gauranga," "Nityananda", "Nitai, Nitai, Nitai, Nitai, Nitai Gauranga," "Gaurahari," "Gaura, Gaura", "Nitai-Gaura," "Nitai-Gauranga," "Gaura-Nitai", "Gaura-Nityananda Bol, Haribol", "Gaura Shri Advaita Bol, Haribol" "Gaura Shri Gadadhara Bol, Haribol," "Gaura Shri Shrivasa Bol, Haribol," "Jagannatha Haribol," "Radhe Radhe Govinda, Govinda Radhe," "Haribol, Haribol," "Hari, Hari Haribol," "Hari, Hari, Hari, Hari, Hari Haribol," "Jaya Radhe," "Radhe, Radhe, Radhe, Radhe Radhe Govinda," etc. In spite of the fact that these are holy names of the Lord, our devotees should not indulge in this type of kirtana because it was disapproved by our founder-acarya.

It is upto an institution and their understanding of Shrila Prabhupada's instructions, our Acharyas and the scriptures whether to chant these Holy Names in kirtana or not. But one thing I can say about the Holy Names mentioned in the above paragraph is that none of them have rasabhasa or contrary spiritual mellows as they are plain, simple and direct Holy Names of the Lord and not concocted Mantras. Lord Gauranga has instructed that naamnaam akaari nija sarva shaktis..."All potencies are present in all my bonafide and principle Names..." So even if an institution does not allow the kirtana of these Holy Names, the absolute fact remains that all of Lord Gauranga Krishna's potencies are there in these Names also and chanting of these Holy Names in kirtana remains a very auspicious activity.

Shrila Prabhupada may have forbade the chanting of these Holy Names because he may have considered that some neophyte devotees may totally replace and substitute the chanting of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra by these Holy Names but I personally see no harm in chanting and singing these simple and direct Holy Names sometimes in kirtana in addition to the Hare Krishna Mahamantra as they are not chanted as Mantras but just as some hymns or songs in glorification of the Names of the Lord. I have seen that in Gaudiya Math, they also chant jaya radhe, jaya radhe and jaya krishna, jaya krishna...and at the end of the kirtana and I do not see anything wrong with that.

Jayadvaita: ...names of Krishna as the spiritual master or the acaryas have chanted them, but sometimes I'll hear that our devotees will be chanting Krishna's name in different ways that I haven't heard, in kirtana.
Prabhupada: I do not follow what you say.
Jayadvaita: Just like sometimes we'll hear our men. They'll be chanting... Like yesterday I heard that someone was chanting, "Nitai-Gaura, Nitai-Gaura, Nitai-Nitai-Gaura." Like that, I'll hear different mantras. Someone is chanting: "Radhe, Radhe, Radhe, Radhe," like that, at kirtana.
Prabhupada: Well, that is not done by the acaryas. But there is no harm chanting "Radhe." But sometimes it is degraded to make something new, invention. Therefore better to stick to "Hare Krishna" and to "Shri-Krishna Chaitanya Prabhupada-Nityananda." Otherwise... Just like the sahajiyas, they have invented: "Nitai-Gaura Radhe Syama, Hare Krishna Hare Rama." These things will come gradually. But they are not approved. They are called chara kirtana, means "concocted kirtana." But there is no harm chanting "Radhe, Nitai-Gaura." So better stick to this Panca-tattva, and maha-mantra. Just like "Nitai Gaura Radhe Syama, Hare Krishna Hare Rama." There is "Nitai-Gaura, Radhe Syama," but it is not approved. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. We have to follow the mahajana. In Chaitanya-charitamrita you'll find "Shri-Krishna-Chaitanya Prabhu-Nityananda, Shri-Advaita Gadadhara...," never "Nitai Gaura, Radhe Syama." So why should we do that?

Shrila Prabhupada is a true follower of Lord Gauranga and the Acharyas. That is why he is saying here that, "There is NO HARM chanting "Radhe" or "Nitai Gaura" as he has fully realized that these Holy Names of the Lord are also non-different than the Lord.

Shri Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada called "nitai gaura radhe shyam..." as a chora mantra as it is manufactured and because it has rasabhasa (overlapping of mellows) but he never said the same thing even about the other manufactured mantra "shri krishna chaitanya prabhu nityananda hare krishna hare rama shri radhe govinda" as there is no rasabhasa in this hymn then what to speak of the most authorized Gauranga Mantra. Implying that the Gauranga Mantra is not-authorized because "nitai gaura radhe shyam..." is considered a chora mantra, is just like speculating that because "I am from Siberia that means everyone has to be from Siberia."

In the above conversation when Shrila Prabhupada states that it is better stick to this Panca-tattva, and maha-mantra, he is basically saying that it is better to stick to the authorized Mantras which have been revealed in the scriptures and taught and practiced by our Acharyas and the Gaura Gopala (Gauranga) Mantra is surely one of Them.

Shrila Prabhupada: There is "Nitai-Gaura, Radhe Syama," but it is not approved. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. We have to follow the mahajana.

So again it boils to whether the Holy Names being chanted are approved by the Mahajanas and Acharyas or not. nitai gaura radhe shyama, hare krishna hare rama, was especially not liked by Shrila Prabhupada's Gurudeva Shri Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada because nitai gaura and radhe shyama being on the same line was not ideally proper. Nitai Gaura are in the mellow of fraternity whereas Radhe Shyam are in the conjugal mellow. In Vraja, Lord Balarama and Shrimati Radha have different mellows for Lord Krishna and so they serve Him individually and a little separately.

As explained earlier, Shri Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada did not raise much objection to the chanting of another manufactured Mantra, "shri krishna chaitanya prabhu nityananda, hare krishna hare rama radhe govinda" as there are no contradicting mellows in this Mantra like "nitai gaura radhe shyam..." as the names of Nitai Gaura and Radha Govinda are in separate lines. So it would fall into the category of a hymn or song rather than a Mantra.

Shrila Prabhupada: In Chaitanya-charitamrita you'll find "Shri-Krishna-Chaitanya Prabhu-Nityananda, Shri-Advaita Gadadhara...," never "Nitai Gaura, Radhe Syama." So why should we do that?

If you techically see, then the Pancha Tattva Mantra in the exact form which we chant is not mentioned in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita nor directly in the writings of Seventh Goswami Shrila Saccidananda Bhaktivinoda Thakura and Shri Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada. But Shrila Prabhupada most mercifully instructed it to us so that we can the attain the causeless mercy of the Pancha Tattva, the five most merciful Forms of God ever to advent in the past, present and future. What Shrila Prabhupada is referring to here is the glories of the Pancha Tattva which are described in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita Adi Lila.

Jayapataka: The concocter of the "Nitai Gaura Radhe Syama," previously he was a follower of Bhaktisiddhanta, but then he was rejected, and then he started his own camp.
Prabhupada: No, yes, he was meeting Bhaktivinoda Thakura. So... What is called? Carana dasa Babaji.
Satsvarupa: Shrila Prabhupada, sometimes during arati, many bona fide bhajanas are sung, but not much Hare Krishna. Is that not a good tendency, that maybe just two or three minutes of Hare Krishna mantra and many other bhajanas?
Prabhupada: No. We should stick to Hare Krishna. Shri-Krishna-Chaitanya Prabhu-Nityananda, jiva jago jiva jago..., these are authorized. But Hare Krishna is the maha-mantra. What is sung by mahajana, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Narottama dasa Thakura, that can be sung. (Morning Walk -- April 8, 1975, Mayapur)

Here Shrila Prabhupada's again states that one should stick to tthe authorized Mantras. The standard of the morning program in Gaudiya Math as directly established by Shrila Prabhupada's Gurudeva is different with lot of Vaishnava songs from our Gaudiya Vaishnava Acharyas and then the Naam kirtana. So one can understand that every Acharya has his own unique to implement the details of the Vedic philosophy and that does not mean that only one Acharya is right and all others should be rejected.

One may agree that kirtana constraints are healthy for neophytes but one may question whether kirtana restrictions also apply for advanced devotees? Did not Lord Chaitanya Himself chant names of the gopis incurring criticism from His neophyte students? How then can there be regulations in chanting for uttama adhikaris?Lord Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, while experiencing the highest platform of mahabhava, chanted the names of the gopis rather than the mahamantra. That is His prerogative, He is God. That was also a unique event. However, He instructed His followers to chant the mahamantra; hare krishna hare krishna, krishna krishna hare hare, hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare. If we imitate Lord Chaitanya's unequaled and exclusive right rather than follow His instructions, it will be a failure.

Yes, but Lord Gauranga's first and foremost expansion and Adi Guru Lord Nityananda not only chanted the Gauranga Mantra (Naam) but also instructed every soul to constantly chant Lord Gauranga's Name and become dear to Him. So chanting Gauranga Naam is not an imitation but actually following the instructions and footsteps of Lord Nityananda who is the original Guru of all Gurus. All Gurus, Sannyasis, Preachers, Devotees etc. are Lord Nityananda's menial servants and they will surely repeat and preach His orders not try to stop them

Furthermore, His senapati bhakta, Shrila Prabhupada instructed his devotees to chant Hare Krishna and not other things.

That is ok. Chanting Hare Krishna with full faith and surrender is really praiseworthy. But the true followers of Shrila Prabhupada's Vani (instructions) should never criticize or minimize the practice of chanting the four-syllable Gaura Gopala Mantra GAURANGA, which is authorized and allowed directly by Shrila Prabhupada in his purport to Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita Antya-lila 2.31 (quoted above) in the following two ways:

(1) “Worshipers of Shri Gaurasundara ACCEPT the four syllables gau-ra-an-ga as the Gaura mantra.."
(2) "Therefore one who chants the mantra “gauranga” and one who chants the names of Radha and Krishna are on the SAME LEVEL."

Thus, even though they may not adopt the practice, all of Shrila Prabhupada's followers should give full respect to his above two instructions regarding the chanting of the Gauranga Mantra and full respect to those who are chanting the Gauranga Mantra as per Shrila Prabhupada's above order because each and every one of Shrila Prabhupada's instructions in his books are eternal and absolute. Shrila Prabhupada said I have given everything in my books. Shrila Prabhupada's words in general conversations etc. are understood through his eternal words in his books which are basis. And that is Shrila Prabhupada has written directly in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita puport and not simply as a conversation that one who chants the mantra “gauranga” and one who chants the names of Radha and Krishna are on the SAME SPIRITUAL LEVEL.

I am sorry to say this but those who discourage others from chanting the Gauranga Mantra along with the Hare Krishna Mahamantra or minimize the chanting of Gauranga Naam either have not read this instruction of Shrila Prabhupada in Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita that Gauranga Mantra chanters are on the same level as Hare Krishna chanters or do not have full faith in these instructions and thus do not give it any importance.

To be continued in the next post...

Title: Re: Shrila Prabhupada on NG Naam and Pancha Tattva Mantra
User: Nava Gauranga dasa    Date: 2006-07-06 12:37:05

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!
Jaya Shrila Prabhupada! Jaya Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada! Jaya Bhaktivinoda Thakura! Dear Swami Gaurangapada,
please accept my full obiesances.

I have just finished reading your article in response to chanting Nityananda, Gauranga, and other forms of the Holy Names. Thank you for your tireless and selfless service. You continually respond to inquirers, devotees with some doubts, and the simple pure hearted, with equal vision, time and courtesy. I wish to express gratitude for your heart which is continually situated in serving the devotees. Well wishes to you Gurudeva.

yours, Nava Gauranga dasa.

Title: Re: Shrila Prabhupada on NG Naam and Pancha Tattva Mantra
User: Matus    Date: 2006-07-06 12:42:12

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!
Dear Swami Gaurangapada Gurudeva please accept my humble obeisances.

Argument: Today it is common to hear kirtanas composed of words such as: "Gauranga," "Nityananda", "Nitai, Nitai, Nitai, Nitai, Nitai Gauranga," "Gaurahari," "Gaura, Gaura", "Nitai-Gaura," "Nitai-Gauranga," "Gaura-Nitai", "Gaura-Nityananda Bol, Haribol", "Gaura Shri Advaita Bol, Haribol" "Gaura Shri Gadadhara Bol, Haribol," "Gaura Shri Shrivasa Bol, Haribol," "Jagannatha Haribol," "Radhe Radhe Govinda, Govinda Radhe," "Haribol, Haribol," "Hari, Hari Haribol," "Hari, Hari, Hari, Hari, Hari Haribol," "Jaya Radhe," "Radhe, Radhe, Radhe, Radhe Radhe Govinda," etc. In spite of the fact that these are holy names of the Lord, our devotees should not indulge in this type of kirtana because it was disapproved by our founder-acarya.
Then what about Vishnujana Swami, one of the most known and respected kirtan leaders of his time? Vishnujana Swami made His kirtans so ecstatic mainly because of His purity and real devotion, no doubt. So when He was chanting the Names of Gaura-Nitai, Jaya Shachinandana, Gaura-Nityananda bol so often, did Shrila Prabhupada raise any objection?

No. Shrila Prabhupada, when He heard the kirtan of Vishnujana Swami, He said: "I am walking in Vaikuntha, i am walking in Vaikuntha...", or something in that sense. (please correct me, if necessary). i don't know the exact circumstances, when Shrila Prabhupada told it, if Vishnujana Swami was chanting the Names of Gaura-Nitai at that very moment. But does not Shrila Prabhupada know the heart of His dear devotees and beware Them of making mistakes even  before the mistakes may occur? I think yes... He praised Visnhujana Swami. Why would He has done so, if there had been any bad habits or errors in His most ecstatic and inspiring kirtans?

Jaya Vishnujana Swami! Jaya Shrila Prabhupada! Jaya Shrila Gurudeva!

Matus

Title: Re: Shrila Prabhupada on NG Naam and Pancha Tattva Mantra
User: Igor    Date: 2006-07-06 14:51:24

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Dear Swami Gaurangapada, you made such wonderfull points! All glories to you.

Yes, that is problem, many persons, evan devotees,  think that chanting Nityananda and Gauranga Mantrarajas, specially on japa,  are some artificial or "new invented" system, meant for self-propaganda in so-called "spiritual market". That is very sad, most unfortunate for them.

But those sincere and fortunate seekers who will listen your explanations and read your words in Nityananda and Gauranga Naam book and other books will easily understand that this is original, most bonafide spiritual path. All so called arguments manufactured by mental and word jugglery can not change eternal truth and that is the eternal chanting of Nityananda and Gauranga Mantrarajas together with Maha Mantra. Unfortunately some persons (in general, not any specific person) today are interested or engage in criticism, institutional politics, etc. and a very small number of persons are open enough to cross over such borders and accept this supreme process.

But, nevertheless, this gigantic Nityananda-Gauranga Naam tide will touch their hearts and offer them highest treasure. Lord Gauranga wants to share this divine melody, you are expert player and this internet-brhad-mrdanga will drum all over this world.  Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!

Title: Re: Shrila Prabhupada on NG Naam and Pancha Tattva Mantra
User: hadai    Date: 2006-07-07 15:53:49

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!
Dear Swamiji,
Please, accept my humble obeisances! All glories to the assembled devotees!

Thank you so much for your swift reply to the article about the Maha Mantra and the Panch Tattva Mantra. The points you make are absolutely clear and convincing. I am so glad that you operate purely on the philosophical level of the Absolute Truth. Gauranga Dharma or Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna Naam Yoga or Bhakti Yoga or Sanatana Dharma is truly aloof of any institute, it is Eternal Truth which may not be captured within the walls of any single institution. Institutions come and go but the eternal truth of Naam Tattva remains. This real nature of the soul and Naam exists before, during, and after any religion, institute, sect, and above any time-bound manifestation. Furthermore I think that institutionalization may sometimes divert us from the Supreme Nectar available to all living entities.

Thank you for your determined commentary. You are like a rock in the very strong current of this material existence. I hold firm unto you because when I would let go of you…I would drown in so many unwanted things.

Thousand dandavats to your lotus feet!

Hadai Nityananda dasa



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