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NG Names Conversation

Post Author: Swami Gaurangapada    Date: 2006-01-24 18:42:05
Important Conversation
with a devotee on the chanting of
Nityananda Gauranga Names

Swami Gaurangapada says:

There is a burning desire in my heart for spreading Nityananda and Gauranag's Holy Names alongwith the Maha-mantra and that is why I am preaching vigorously.

Devotee says:

Wonderful!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Nityananda Gauranga Names along with the Mahamantta

Swami Gaurangapada says:

because Prabhupada clearly says:

Devotee says:

That's the revolutionary spirit we need!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

(Cc Adi 8.31 purp)"A neophyte student who is not sufficiently educated or enlightened should not indulge in the worship of Shri Radha and Krishna or the chanting of the Hare Krishna mantra. Even if he does so, he cannot get the desired result. One should therefore chant the names of Nitai-Gaura and worship Them without false prestige. "

Devotee says:

For me I have to work my purity and the quality of my chanting

Swami Gaurangapada says:

"In the beginning one should *** very regularly *** chant Shri Gaurasundara's holy name and then chant the holy name of Lord Nityananda. Thus one's heart will be cleansed of impure desires for material enjoyment. Then one can approach Vrndavana-dhama to worship Lord Krishna."

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Prabhupada: "Nitai-Gauranga and Hare Krishna, there is no difference. Nitai-Gauranga is also nice. Whatever he finds convenient, let him chant." (Shrila Prabhupada's Room Conversation with Yoga Student regarding Japa)

Swami Gaurangapada says:

"Vaishnavas consider Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu nondifferent from Radha-Krishna (shri-krishna-chaitanya radha-krishna nahe anya). Therefore *ONE WHO CHANTS THE MANTRA "GAURANGA" and ONE WHO CHANTS THE NAMES OF RADHA AND KRSNA ARE ON THE SAME LEVEL." (Shrila Prabhupada in Cc Antya-lila 2.31 purport)

Swami Gaurangapada says:

"By his (Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada's) strong desire, the holy name of Gauranga will first spread throughout all the countries of the Western world. Then in all the cities, towns, and villages on the earth, from all the oceans, seas, rivers, and streams, everyone will chant the Hare Krishna Maha-mantra." (SP on Jaladuta, September 13, 1965)

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Cc Madhya 24.330: "The spiritual master has to select a mantra for his disciple according to the disciple’s ability to chant different mantras."

Devotee says:

Intresting quote as it is you gave.These kind of quotes give us so much faith isn't it!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

"The expert devotees also can discover novel ways and means to convert the nondevotees in terms of particular time and circumstance. Devotional service is dynamic activity, and the expert devotees can find out competent means to inject it into the dull brains of the materialistic population. Such transcendental activities of the devotees for the service of the Lord can bring a new order of life (

Swami Gaurangapada says:

to the foolish society of materialistic men."   (SB 1.5.16 purport)

Devotee says:

To inject in teh dull brains! wonderfull statement and it is really a fact.

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada introduced the system of  Gayatri-Mantra-Diksha (Brahmana Diksha) for the first time in our sampradaya even though he had not received it from his own guru. Because he wanted to stop the Vaishnava-aparadha committed by the brahmanas in thinking themselves superior to the

Vaishnavas.

Devotee says:

I sometimes want to do so much but maya still keeps me paralysed.Purity is the force!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Similarly I have introduced this system of Gauranama-Diksha into the chanting of the Nityananda and Gauranga Mantrarajas by the inspiration of Prabhupada, all the acharyas

and Lord Nityananda in order to stop and totally destroy all the

ten nama-aparadhas (offenses) of the devotees and disciples and to make them rapidly achieve pure love for Krishna &

qualification to chant the pure Maha-mantra.

Swami Gaurangapada says:

This is before Harinama Diksha. My experience everywhere is by regularly chanting the the Nityananda and Gauranga Mantrarajas 10 rounds daily, people take up the chanting of the Mahamantra veery soon and come up to the level of 16 rounds almost instantly

Swami Gaurangapada says:

and followin the 4 regs and Ekadashi, they spontaneously begin to follow

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Now I understand why Thakura Bhaktivinoda has said:

Swami Gaurangapada says:

"Navadvipa-dhama-mahatmya Chp 1

The offenses and sins of the living entities in Kali-yuga are unlimited and absolutely insurmountable. That is why the souls can never never be delivered without the regular chanting the most merciful name of 'Gauranga'.

Devotee says:

NItai!!!!! Gauranga !!!!!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

That is specifically for the Pancha Tattva Mantra but SP also told us that we should folow the order of Lord NItyananda!!!!!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Order of Lord Gauranga is to chant Hare Krishna

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Order of Lord Nityananda is to chant Gauranga constantly

Swami Gaurangapada says:

bhaja gauranga kaha gauranga laha gaurangera nama re;

ye jana gauranga bhaje sei amara prana re.

"Worship Gauranga, chant the 'Gauranga' mantra and take the name of 'Gauranga'. Those who will worship Gauranga in this way by constantly chanting His name are veritably My life and soul"

Devotee says:

But it is teh Hare Krishna mantra which is sweeping the world by Gauranga and especially Nityananda's mercy! Haribol!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Lord Nityananda was first told to preach Mahamantra by Lord Gauranga

Swami Gaurangapada says:

but He went to Bengal and preached the name of Gauranga

Swami Gaurangapada says:

was He not following the Lord?

Swami Gaurangapada says:

He knew that without chanting Gauranga's Name no one has the qualification to chant the Mahamantra

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Shrila Prabhupada has authorized the chanting of japa of the names of Nityananda Gauranga on beads for one and all

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Prabhupada: "Nitai-Gauranga and Hare Krishna, there is no difference. Nitai-Gauranga is also nice. Whatever he finds convenient, let him chant." (Shrila Prabhupada's Room Conversation with Yoga Student regarding Japa)

Devotee says:

It will become more glorius then Ramalila.Which is already  glorified and still glorified in the 3 worlds!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

The Yoga Student specifically asked Prabhupada about making people chant japa of the the names of Nityananda-Gauranga before Mahamantra

Swami Gaurangapada says:

and Prabhupada said that there is no difference

Devotee says:

Gauralila will conquer by intimate and real unconditional friendship which will be so sweet.All people will fall flat for it!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

for perfected and liberated souls there is no different between HKMM and NG Names

Swami Gaurangapada says:

but for conditioned souls Prabhupada says:

Devotee says:

Nityananda is Sesanaga who is holding al the universe he is sankarsana and on top he is also the paramatma in the heart of all living entities.

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Considering the position of the people of this age, however, the chanting of Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's name is more essential than the chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra because Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is the most magnanimous incarnation and His mercy is very easily achieved.achieved."

Devotee says:

Any problem to spread the glories of Krishna.When Nitai switch on the loud sound of the radio of the supersoul in the heart of the people in mass what we will see happening

Swami Gaurangapada says:

"the chanting of Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's name is more essential than the chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra"

Swami Gaurangapada says:

can you believe that?

Swami Gaurangapada says:

this is Prabhupada's words

Devotee says:

Gauranga's name is more essential that's why without Panchatatvea nama we can not properly chant HKmantra but still we are requested to chant 16 rounds daily mininimum.This is Sp request on the initiation day

Swami Gaurangapada says:

But there is a problem

Devotee says:

It is so ecstatic to chant Hare Krishna on and on!!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

SP wants us the neophytes to chant the TWO names of Nityananda and Gauranga very regularly and on other hand he has told not to Pancha-tattva Mantra on beads and more than 3 times in kirtana

Swami Gaurangapada says:

so there must be some solution!!!!!

Devotee says:

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Swami Gaurangapada says:

But that is a petty 20 to 30 times a day

Swami Gaurangapada says:

The Name which has no offenses and is more essential you are chanting only 20 to 30 times a day

Devotee says:

He this chatting is quite intresting it is just like talking but withoiut sound

Swami Gaurangapada says:

whereas the Nam eof Krishna in the form of HKMM we are chanting 27,648 times a day

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Yes it is better than talking

Swami Gaurangapada says:

because you can quote

Swami Gaurangapada says:

In the beginning one should *** very regularly *** chant Shri Gaurasundara's holy name and then chant the holy name of Lord Nityananda. Thus one's heart will be cleansed of impure desires for material enjoyment. Then one can approach Vrndavana-dhama to worship Lord Krishna."

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Prabhupada wants to chant the Names of Gauranga and Nityananda VERY REGULARLY

Devotee says:

You are fired up! very good!

Devotee says:

Simple wonderful! I like youir spirit!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

VERY REGULARLY

Swami Gaurangapada says:

VERY REGULARLY

Devotee says:

Ok! OK! Jay Nitai! Jay NImai!!!!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Very regularly cannot just mean 20 to 50 times a day

Devotee says:

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Very regularly means atleast 1000 times a day

Devotee says:

24 hours!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

that is all disciples and followers of Gauranga Dharma are chanting 10 rounds of Nityananda-Gauranga before chanting the HKMM

Swami Gaurangapada says:

that is why

Devotee says:

FRom the bottom of the heart

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Yes Constantly

Swami Gaurangapada says:

that is the instruction of Narottama dasa Thakura

Swami Gaurangapada says:

"One may reside in the house or in the forest, but if he is constantly chanting `Gauranga!', then I (Narottama) want his association."

Swami Gaurangapada says:

But first has to begin by chanting atleast 1000 times a day

Swami Gaurangapada says:

one has to begin

Devotee says:

Still the mercy will come when the Lord wants to give when he is convinced about us, right,isn't it

Swami Gaurangapada says:

I will tell you a great secret which Narada Muni tells King Suvarna Sena

Swami Gaurangapada says:

gauranga-nama na laiya, yei krishna bhaje giya; sei krishna bahu kale paya.

gauranga-nama laya jei, sadya krishna paya sei; aparadha nahi rahe taya.

Devotee says:

There are no special tricks we have to pay the price and wait for his final blessings there is no shortcut! That is what i understand!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

"If someone endeavours to worship Krishna without regularly chanting the name of Lord Gauranga, then he or she will achieve Krishna only after a very prolonged period of time. But if someone takes shelter of the names of Lord Gauranga, he or she will achieve Krishna very soon because his offenses will  immediately cease to exist."

Swami Gaurangapada says:

NO THERE IS A SHORTCUT WHICH IS THE GREATEST SECRET

Swami Gaurangapada says:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

Devotee says:

That 's why we also have to develop great great great patience and tolerance

Swami Gaurangapada says:

THERE IS A SHORTCUTTTTTTTTT

Swami Gaurangapada says:

HERE IT IS:

Swami Gaurangapada says:

In Shri Navadvipa-dhama-mahatmya, Chp 10, the personified holy place

Pushkara instructs the brahmana in Navadvipa:

Devotee says:

Gaurabhaktavrinda ki Jay!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

**KOTI KOTI VARSE kari shri krishna bhajana;

tathapi namete rati na paya durjana.

"A sinful or offensive person will not acquire attraction for the Hare Krishna maha-mantra or Lord Krishna's devotional service even if he chants the maha-mantra and worships Lord Krishna **FOR MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF YEARS**.

Swami Gaurangapada says:

PLEASE TAKE NOT OF KOTI KOTI VARSHA

Devotee says:

Shortcut is also the mercy of all the other vaishnava's.

Swami Gaurangapada says:

MEANS IT WILL TAKE MILLIONS OF YEARS TO GO BTG SIMPLY BY CHANTING KRISHNA'S NAMES BECAUSE OF OUR OFFENSES

Devotee says:

I love to serve prasadam to the vaishnava.In this way I'm always receiving so much mercy!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

THEN WHAT IS THE SOLUTION

Swami Gaurangapada says:

PUSHKARARAJA GIVES THE SOLUTION:

Devotee says:

Cant Hare Krishna and be happy!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

BUT IT MAKE TAKE MILLIONS OF YEARS BY ONLY CHANTING HARE KRISHNA

Swami Gaurangapada says:

AS ALSO DESCRIBED IN CC

Swami Gaurangapada says:

BECAUSE OF OUR 10 OFFENSES

Swami Gaurangapada says:

THAT IS WHY THERE ARE SAO MANY FALLDOWNS

Devotee says:

Finally it is all very personal!W e have to satisfy and serve the vaishnava tirelessly!! and become dasanudasanudasa

Swami Gaurangapada says:

THE SOLUTION IS:

Swami Gaurangapada says:

gauranga bhajile dusta bhava dure jaya;

**SVALPA DINE vrajadhama radha-krishna paya.

"But if he worships Gauranga and regularly chants the name of 'Gauranga', then his sinful and crooked mentality will immediately leave him and **IN A VERY FEW DAYS** he will achieve Lord Radha-Krishna in Vrajadhama."

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Just see with only Krishna's name it took millions of years

Devotee says:

Even close associates of Gauranga Mahaprabhu fell down,who were embrased by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

and with Gauranga's name it takes only a few days to achieve Radha-Krishna and Vrindavana

Swami Gaurangapada says:

as per Navadvipa-Dhama Mahatmya

Swami Gaurangapada says:

When we chant the HKMM we are searching after Krishna_prema

Devotee says:

I think you have a very intense desire to go to Krishnaloka!

Devotee says:

Please take me with you as soon as possible

Swami Gaurangapada says:

but when we chant Nityananda-Gauranga Names, pure love for Krishna comes searching after us

Devotee says:

This world is so boring othewrwise!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

nitai-chaitanya bali yei jiva dake;

suvimala krishna-prema anvesaye take.

"If one simply chants the names of Nityananda and Gauranga, Krishna-prema (pure love of Krishna) comes searching after such a person."

Swami Gaurangapada says:

WHAT DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT TO SEARCH AFTER KRISHNA PREMA (WHICH MAY TAKE MILLIONS OF YEARS) OR YOU WANT KRISHNA PREMA TO COME SEARCHING AFTER YOU?

Swami Gaurangapada says:

PLEASE ANSWER MY ABOVE QUESTION!

Devotee says:

I have no capacity of understanding Shrila Prabhupada myself sufficiently or intimetaly or confidentially

Swami Gaurangapada says:

You cannot understand the vani of Prabhupada and acharyas which is so clear?!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Ultimately guru is also supposed to speak from sadhu and shastra

Devotee says:

Your english is good! I'm now and then missing one letter!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Prabhupada said one should *******very regularly ****chant the names of Nityananda and Gauranga and not directly indulge in the chanting of Mahamantra. Why don't we simply follow?

Swami Gaurangapada says:

Advancment comes by implementing the teachings of Guru and Shastra in one's life not by blind following

Devotee says:

Where are not Jnaniyogi's we are bhaktiyogis.Tesam satam Yuktanam dadadi Buddhi yogam...Descending knowledge not ascending knowledge .This is my humble understanding!!!

Swami Gaurangapada says:

but you cannot reject the vani of Shrila Prabhupada and the previous acharyas

Swami Gaurangapada says:

and the final order of Lord Nityananda which is to constantly chant and preach Gauranga's Name

Swami Gaurangapada: the only hope for the world is the Names of Nityananda-Gauranga!

"Simply by chanting or hearing the name of Lord Nityananda, the sinful inclinations in the hearts of all the living entities in the universe are permanently destroyed and their inherent purity is automatically awakened. On chanting or hearing the name of Lord Nityananda, even the merchants, degraded, fallen and foolish people are purified and immediately become realized in the Absolute Truth and devotees of the Lord." (SBSSTP Chaitanya-Bhagavata, Madhya-Khanda 3.134)


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