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Title: relaxing music?

User: guitarwhispers Date: 2006-07-14 21:26:21


After doing yoga I really like to listen to relaxing but fun music to keep my spirits up for the day. I'm constantly looking for good cds/compilation cds and I recently found one I really like. It's called "Eclectic Cafe" and I actually first heard it at work at umg when a friend was playing it from her computer. It's a record company compilation, but it's actually good with a few known artists and some good unknowns. It's streaming on the label's website in the chill section if you're interested in checking it out. Just thought some of you might want some nice new music too :)


Title: Re: relaxing music?

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2006-07-15 06:23:20


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Welcome guitarwhispers to the Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna Naam Yoga forum. Thanks for joining and for your first post. I appreciate your desire to share about some nice music but we are not normally not attracted or interested in material perfection and nicety in music if that music has no connection to describing the glories of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Gauranga Krishna. However soothing and cooling it may externally to the mind or however perfectly sung and composed it may be materially, it will never touch the soul according to the Vedas.


In Shrimad Bhagavatam 1.5.10: "", Shrila Narada states to Shrila Vyasadeva:


na yad vacas citra-padam harer yaso

jagat-pavitram pragrnita karhicit

tad vayasam tirtham usanti manasa

na yatra hamsa niramanty usik-ksayah


"Those words or songs which do not describe the glories of the Lord, who alone can sanctify the atmosphere of the whole universe, are considered by saintly persons to be like unto a place of pilgrimage for crows. Since the all-perfect persons are inhabitants of the transcendental abode, they do not derive any pleasure in such words or songs."


Shrimad Bhagavatam 1.5.11: "":


tad-vag-visargo janatagha-viplavo

yasmin prati-slokam abaddhavaty api

namany anantasya yaso 'nkitani yat

srnvanti gayanti grnanti sadhavah


"On the other hand, that literature which is full of descriptions of the transcendental glories of the name, fame, forms, pastimes, etc., of the unlimited Supreme Lord is a different creation, full of transcendental words directed toward bringing about a revolution in the impious lives of this world's misdirected civilization. Such transcendental literatures, even though imperfectly composed, are heard, sung and accepted by purified men who are thoroughly honest."


Shrimad Bhagavatam 5.18.12: "" confirms this:


yasyasti bhaktir bhagavaty akincana

sarvair gunais tatra samasate surah

harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-guna

manorathenasati dhavato bahih


"All the demigods and their exalted qualities, such as religion, knowledge and renunciation, become manifest in the body of one who has developed unalloyed devotion for the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vasudeva. On the other hand, a person devoid of devotional service and even engaged perfectly in material activities has no good spiritual qualities. Even if he is adept at the practice of mystic yoga or the honest endeavor of maintaining his family and relatives or expertise in material fields, art and culture, he is driven by his own mental speculations and thus engages in the service of the Lord's external energy. Thus there are no good spiritual qualities in such a person."


I hope you understand and thanks again for your effort to share with us.


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Title: Re: relaxing music?

User: candrika         Date: 2006-07-15 19:37:05


I can empathise with guitarwhispers about his taste in music as  I used to enjoy a wide variety of music, however now that same music I actively avoid. And it hasnt been just because it is instructed, but also because I found there is very good reason for it.


It became increasingly apparent to me that alot of the music I used to listen to would have a great effect on me.


Not only do the lyrics lodge themselves and condition my mind, so that my thoughts arent always my own, but also what is known these days as "emoti music" manipulated my feelings and emotions. I dont want my emotions controlled by music or anything else, I would rather me and what little intelligence I have controlled such things.


When I listen to the unemotive chanting by the Acharyas that is more soothing to the body and soul than a billion modern tracks perfectly performed and expertly produced that evoke and impose someone elses emotion and condition the mind.


Even in my own chanting I find it most beneficial and clearing to my mind allowing more realisations, when my senses, feelings and emotions are kept in check and simply the cooling sound vibration of the Holy Names is experienced, which seem to wash away all of the thoughts I may have accumulated, leaving my mind clear to be more aware and more conscious of everything and to be able to realise things properly without the obstacles of imposed conditioning and emotions as much as is possible for me at this stage.


I hope this might explain a little guitar whispers, why Spiritual Masters such as Swamiji here might advise to avoid such things, they are not kill joys, just wanting better for you. :victory:


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare


Title: Re: relaxing music?

User: JagannathaGaurangadasa     Date: 2006-07-17 00:03:34


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!


Dear Guitarwhispers,


Here is more evidence from Chaitanya Bhagavata of the dangers of material sound vibration with commentary from the mighty Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati.



niravadhi natya, geta, vadya-kolahala

na cune kaneera nama parama maigala



People would constantly dance, sing, and play musical instruments in a great commotion, but they never heard the supremely auspicious names of Krishna.



Dancing, singing, and playing musical instruments are forms of intoxication technically called tauryatrika. Person who aspire for auspiciousness should never come under the influence of such activities. Such activities induce one to forget Krishna, but dancing, singing, and playing instruments for the service of the Krishna are forms of cultivating Krishna consciousness. By such processes, the living entity is supremely benefitted. Those who give up the intention of serving Krishna while engaging in dancing, singing, and playing musical instruments out of greed for their own material sense enjoyment are unable to chant Krishna's names, which bestow supreme benefit. Material sound vibrations never allow one to cultivate Krishna consiousness, rather they attract one to remain busy in sense gratification and thus spoil everything.



So we should consider the advice of Swami Gaurangapada and the other self realized acaryas. It is absolutely necessary to only hear transcendental sound, this is the only way we will become truly satisfied because we will be pleasing ourselves, the spirit soul.  Swami Gaurangapada has many nice songs on his website and a nice kirtana album and Shrila Prabhupada has many cd's and mp3's that you can buy, I would suggest hearing these over and over again.


Non-transcendental music is much more risky than it looks at first sight as it is a cause of material attachment. I had very real attachment for music as I had played guitar seriously for about a decade before I became interested in spiritual life and came into contact with Swami Gaurangapada. I played fusion instrumental rock and I would play 2 or 3 hours a day minimum, so I know the strength of this attachment and it was hard to give up, but once I did I felt much better. Even this last week I had an offer to play with a promising band in the area, but it is simply not possible to play this sort of music and advance spiritually, it is best to give it up forever. Music is a strong source of sense gratification. It also happens that sense gratification is our greatest enemy and any and all problems we have ever had was caused by the desire to gratify our own senses and not the Lord's, that is why we are here in this prisonhouse of a world. When our senses want to enjoy sense objects and not please the Lord's transcendental senses then they are our number 1 enemy, and should be forcibly engaged to hear transcendental sound and within a short time they feel satisfied.


Remember we are spirit souls, we are not the body, senses or the mind, so only transcendental sound will give you lasting satisfaction, and after a while you will spit at the disturbing thought of material sound vibrations of any kind. Why allow the mind to drag you down into the inferior material atmosphere? Take up this Gauranga Naam and never look back!


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!


Jagannatha Gauranga dasa.


Title: Re: relaxing music?

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2006-07-17 05:08:41


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Thanks to Chandrika Gauranga dasi and Jagannatha Gauranga dasa for contributing and explaining nicely.


Ofcourse, we also have the difference that if the same music, same instruments and the same singers are used to glorify the transcendental glories of the Lord and His Holy Names then it no longer remains material but spiritualizes the whole music and is a service to the Lord. Like for example, George Harrison of the Beatle group was told by Shrila Prabhupada not to give up his profession of singing but sing for the Lord and he made the Holy Names quite popular due to his albums. So ultimately it is not the music, instruments or the singers but it is the subject matter, goal and the consciousness behind the music which makes it either spiritual or material. Everything can be used in the service of the Lord if we have the right consciousness behind it.


Title: Re: relaxing music?

User: candrika         Date: 2006-07-17 08:29:00


You have told us of all the offenses to be wary of whilst chanting.


So I wondered whether hearing even kirtan from someone who is chanting offensively can be bad for us.


If the person singing a kirtan is offensive and committing many offenses, then are we adversely affected by that?


Title: Re: relaxing music?

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2006-07-17 08:42:44


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Nityananda Gauranga Naam do not consider offenses but yes in general one will get the maximum spiritual benefit if one hears from an offenseless devotee. Hearing from someone is actually associating with them. So if they have a very critical mentality about other devotees or lack of humility or doubts or a wrong understanding of the scriptures or an atheistic mentality, then these qualities do subtly filter down into our consciousness even though the subject matter of hearing may not be directly related to these. :headphones:


"The humble, the compassionate, the simple, and the determined are near to achieving success in the chanting of the Holy Names of the Lord." -Swami Gaurangapada