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Title: My devotee will never be conquered

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2006-08-01 20:24:32


Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.14.18


badhyamano 'pi mad-bhakto

vishayair ajitendriyah

prayah pragalbhaya bhaktya

vishayair nabhibhuyate




Lord Krishna said, "My dear Uddhava, if My devotee has not fully conquered his senses, he may be harassed by material desires, but because of his unflinching devotion for Me, he will not be defeated by sense gratification."




Abhibhuyate indicates falling down into the material world and being defeated by maya. But even though one's senses are not fully conquered, one who has unflinching devotion for Lord Krishna does not run the risk of being separated from Him. The words pragalbhaya bhaktya indicate a person who has great devotion for Lord Krishna, and not one who desires to commit sinful activities and chant Hare Krishna to avoid the reaction. Because of previous bad habits and immaturity, even a sincere devotee may be harassed by lingering attraction to the bodily concept of life; but his unflinching devotion for Lord Krishna will act. Shrila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura gives the following two examples. A great warrior may be struck by the weapon of his enemy, but because of his courage and strength he is not killed or defeated. He accepts the blow and goes on to victory. Similarly, one may contract a serious disease, but if he takes the proper medicine he is quickly cured.


If those who follow the impersonal system of speculation and austerity deviate even slightly from their path, they fall down. A devotee, however, even though immature, never falls from the path of devotional service. Even if he displays occasional weakness, he is still considered a devotee if his devotion to Lord Krishna is very strong. As the Lord states in Bhagavad-gita (9.30):


api cet su-duracaro

bhajate mam ananya-bhak

sadhur eva sa mantavyah

samyag vyavasito hi sah


"Even if one commits the most abominable actions, if he is engaged in devotional service he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated."


Title: Re: My devotee will never be conquered

User: Igor     Date: 2006-08-01 20:40:00


Even if he displays occasional weakness, he is still considered a devotee if his devotion to Lord Krishna is very strong

Thank you very much for such wonderfull verse. I must say that I recognise my problem within this description. Sometimes my desire to serve and to be fully absorb in Gaura-Krishna katha is very, very strong and sometimes it can be described like occasional weakness. How it can be improved so that person is alweys in his strong position of constant service?:pranams:


Title: Re: My devotee will never be conquered

User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2006-08-01 21:34:11


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Guru Parampara! :pranams: Pranams! and :bless: Blessings!  As described by Shrila Vishvanatha Chakravarti Thakura in Madhurya Kadambini, the various types of unsteady devotional service (Anishthita Bhakti) during Bhajana Kriya (the third stage) in Naam and Bhakti Yoga are:

Utsaha-mayi: false confidence or one may get puffed up with the false notion of considering oneself very knowledgeable or a very advanced devotee just because one knows a little about bhakti.

Ghana-tarala: Sporadic endeavor in Naam and Bhakti; being sometimes diligent and other times      negligent.

Vyudha-vikalpa: indecision (extensive speculation); the mind spends useless time      pondering on whether to renounce or take or remain in household life though the problem lies elsewhere and is the lack of taste for the Naam.

Visaya-sangara: struggle with the senses or the inability to give up sense      enjoyment. The pleasure of the sense-objects still appear significantly attractive as the spiritual pleasure of Naam has not properly awakened.

Niyamakshama: inability to uphold vows in Naam bhajan etc. which result in the inability to      improve or progress in one's devotional service. One makes vows, follows them for a few days and then breaks them. There is no steadiness.

Taranga-rangini: enjoying the facilities offered by bhakti i.e material      gain ,worship,and position.These are weeds around the creeper of bhakti. Seeking      pleasure (ranga) in the weed like facilities which are small waves (taranga)      in the ocean of bhakti stunts and hampers the growth of the main bhakti creeper leading to offenses.The only solution is constant Naam Bhajana, as constantly and as deeply we can chant always, that much faster we will cross the above six hurdles and come to nishthita bhajana kriya and then progress to anartha nivritti and gradually to nishta from where there is no looking back. The more continuous and constant our Naam bhajan becomes, the faster we progress in Naam and Bhakti Yoga and all obstacles simply disappear.


divaa raatra naam laya anutapa kare

naam aparadha jaya naam phala dhare


"When one chants constantly day and night with great repentance and humility for the time wasted previously without chanting Naam, all the offenses will be destroyed and the ultimate fruit of Naam will appear in front of our eyes."


I made a chart from Madhurya Kadambini in the early days to explain this, reading which, the Naam and Bhakti Yoga spiritual aspirant would know where exactly he or she stands. I will have to search for that one or maybe make a new one.


Title: Re: My devotee will never be conquered

User: candrika         Date: 2006-08-02 08:01:01


Wat does it mean about the bodily concept of life. To be free of the bodily concept of life?


Can you give me an example of having a bodily conception of life as I dont exactly know what this means.