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Title: 002 Did any acharya in our line chant rounds of Gauranga and/or Nityananda Mantra?
User: Swami Gaurangapada Date: 2006-06-18 04:26:50
Q. Did any acharya in our line chant rounds of Gauranga and/or Nityananda Mantra?
A. Yes, Lord Nityananda did, Shivananda Sena did (in Cc), Parvati, Sapta-rishis, Markandeya. Suvarna Sena etc etc etc etc etc....... did in the Navadvipa-dhama-mahatmya, Narada in Chaitanya-mangala, associates of the Lord in Cc etc. Lord Nityananda explicitly instructed all the living entities to chant the Gauranga Mantra. Where did He instruct anyone to chant Gauranga only without beads but not on beads? It is absurd and ludricous to say that Gauranga's name can be chanted in any form but not on beads.
I challenge, "Why not?" Please show me any statement in the scripture which says that it is prohibited to ch ant Gauranga or Nityananda Mantra on the beads or to chant Gauranga on beads in apasiddhantic or apasampradayic. Please support your statements with scriptural quotes before saying that chanting of the Gauranga Mantra on beads in not recommended by the acharyas or that chanting of the Gauranga Mantra on beads falls in a category of an apasampradaya or that chanting the Gauranga Mantra is a manufactured bhajana. It is like saying that Shrila Shivananda Sena engaged himself in a manufactured or invented process of bhajana. Don't you think this is an extremely offensive statement to the authorized 'Gauranga' Mantra which is known as the Gaura Gopala Mantra in the Cc and also to Lord Nityananda and the acharyas themselves who have chanted japa and preached the chanting of the Gauranga Mantra?
An acharya may give many instructions in his books and writings but practically implement only some of them himself. Imho this does not mean that if some sincere followers of the acharya are inspired by some of those instructions which he may not have practically implemented, they cannot implement those instructions in their personal sadhana and for the supreme benefit of the people. Shrila Prabhupada said everything is in my books and all his words are equally transcendental including the following statement:
"A neophyte student who is not sufficiently educated or enlightened should not indulge in the worship of Shri Radha and Krishna or the chanting of the Hare Krishna mantra. Even if he does so, he cannot get the desired result. One should therefore chant the names of Nitai-Gaura and worship Them without false prestige. In the beginning one should *** very regularly *** chant Shri Gaurasundara's holy name and then chant the holy name of Lord Nityananda. Thus one's heart will be cleansed of impure desires for material enjoyment. Then one can approach Vrndavana-dhama to worship Lord Krishna."(Cc Adi 8.31 purp)
Please note he is talking about a student who is already interested and wants to take up spiritual life not simply some one on the street.
It is also in the Bhagavatam that an acharya's instructions are the most important even more than his actions (which cannot be imitated or understood by most people) and anyone who tries to follow or try to implement his instructions are actually following him.
krishna nama and gaura nama is same but there are some differences also. The following are some diffrences---
1. there are 10 offences to be avoided in krishna nama..whereas there are no offenses considered in gaura nama.
2. although krishna is gaura , but gaura is audarya vigraha...so it is said in navadwipa mahatmya that if one worships krishna without gaura ,then krishna prema will come after a very prolonged period of time , but if gaura is worshipped along with krishna , then krishna prema will come in a short time.
those who say that krishna mantra includes everything - so there is no need of chanting gaura's name, should think why scriptures say in the above way. The actual understanding is that krishna prema can be obtained very quickly by chanting gaura's name..if krishna's name alone, (without gaura'a name) is chanted then sage narada, and pushkara tirtha say in navadwipa mahatmya that it will take millions and millions of years to awaken krishna prema.
why it is said that by chanting gaura's name along with krishna's name , very quickly krishna prema will come? this is because gaura's name eradicates all types of namaaparadha in krishna's name's chanting.
"namaaparaadham sakalam vinasya chaitanya naamashrita maanavaanaam"
3. Lord Nityananda Pabhu says that offenders are punished in vrindavana but they are given krishna prema in navadwipa.
4.In anubhasya commentary to Chaitanya charitaamritam, shrila bhakti siddhanta saraswati thakur says that although krishna nama and gaura nama are non-different from each other, still krishna nama shows mercy on liberated souls and gaura nama shows mercy on fallen and offensive jivas. Hence he recommends to chant "gauranga" .
we have to consider whether chanting pancha tattva mantra three times before kirtana and one time before hare krishna mantra is sufficient for the most fallen souls of kali yuga?
some one may say that prabhupada meant pancha tattva mantra whenever he says about gauranga in his lectures
or books. We should carefully understand this point. Prabhupada said to chant nitai-gaura always but he said that pancha tattava mantra should not be chanted on beads and pancha mantra should be chanted only three times before each kirtan and one time before each round of hare krishna. So prabhupada is pointing that gauranga should be chanted always but not in form of pancha tattva mantra which is only once before each round of hare krishna)
When prabhupada said chant krishna's name always ..he meant hare krishna mantra , but when he says chant
gauranga always did he mean pancha tattva mantra? no ..otherwise why he would he say only three times before hare krishna kirtana and one time before one round of hare krishna? so prabhupada meant some other mantra when he says chant gauranga always. So herein exists the very important thing. vedas say that "gauranga' is a 4 syllable vaishnava mantra. So when prabhupada and all previous acharyas say that "chant gauranga's name always, it means chant "gauranga" which itself is a vaishnava mantra.
there is no problem of initiation for this mantra because krishna mantra or gaura mantra does not depend on initiation. Ofcourse initiation is always good and very beneficial, but no one can say that krishna mantra or gaura mantra cannot be chanted without initiation.
Vaishanva mantras can be chanted on tulasi beads. If devotees of narasimha can chant narasimha mantra on beads ..if devotees of rama can chant rama mantra on beads , if devotees of narayana can chant narayana mantra on beads , why a gaura devotee exclusively attached to gauranga cannot chant the bonafide gauranga mantra on beads?
Prabhupada said Christians and others can chant names of god known in their religions(christ, allah etc) on
beads. Refer science of self realisation book.So why would Prabhupada object to chanting of Gauranga's
name on beads especially when he came specially to preach the name of Gauranga?
ONE CAN SIMULTANEOUSLY WORSHIP GAURANGA BY CHANTING THE GAURA-GOPALA MANTRA
AND RADHA-KRISHNA BY CHANTING THE HARE KRISHNA MAHA-MANTRA
Vrajanatha: What is the final destination of the soul who is a devotee of Lord Gauranga)?
Babaji: Krishna and Gaura-kisora are not different. They are both shelters of the feature of sweetness (madhurya-rasa). They do have one difference. Madhurya-rasa (the Lord's sweetness) has two features: 1. madhurya (sweetness), and 2. audarya (mercy). When sweetness is prominent, Lord Krishna is manifested. When mercy is prominent, Lord Gauranga is manifested. The spiritual world of Vrndavana is divided into two abodes: 1. the abode of Lord Krishna, and 2. the abode of Lord Gaura. The eternally perfect and eternally liberated souls who have sweetness first and mercy second reside
in Lord Krishna's abode. They are Lord Krishna's associates. The eternally perfect and eternally liberated souls who have mercy first and sweetness second reside in Lord Gaura's abode. They are Lord Gaura's associates. Some souls manifest two forms and reside in both abodes simultaneously. Other souls manifest only one form and are present in one of the abodes and not in the other. Souls who during the time of sadhana worship only Lord Gaura, the time of attaining perfection go to Lord Gaura's abode and serve Him there. Souls who during the time of sadhana worship only Lord Krishna, at the time of attaining perfection go to Lord Krishna's abode and serve Him there. Souls who during the time of sadhana worship both Lord Krishna and Lord Gaura, at the time of attaining perfection manifest two forms, go to both Lord Krishna's abode and Lord Gaura's abode, and in their two forms serve the two Lord's simultaneously in both places. This truth: that Lord Gaura and Lord Krishna are simultaneously one and different from each other, is a very confidential secret. (Chp 17, Jaiva Dharma)
Kindly read the above full message and think and mediate deeply before coming to a hasty conclusion of minimizing or discouraging or downgrading or writing off the importance of the regular chanting of atleast 10 rounds each of the 'Gauranga' and 'Nityananda' Mantras along with atleast 16 rounds of the Maha-mantra. Believe it or not, if we take part in the minimization of the process of regular chanting of these two most merciful names of the Lord, it will be most displeasing thing to Lord Nityananda Prabhu and will invoke His direct anger on whoever minimizes the chanting of
these two mantras in any subtle as well as gross way because it is His dearmost mission to propogate the chanting of the name of 'Gauranga' all over the creation as stated by Prabhupada himself on the Jaladuta. And one who even indirectly dares to challenge or obstruct or belittle this mission of the Supreme Lord Nityananda Prabhu will face a very inauspicious situation in life. If Gauranga is displeased with someone, Nityananda protects and somehow engages that soul in Gauranga's service but if Nityananda is displeased with someone, that soul becomes permanently bereft
of the mercy of Gauranga.