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Title: Shrila Prabhupada On 64 Rounds

User: Damodara Svarupa dasa      Date: 2005-02-22 07:13:23

 

Shrila Prabhupada On 64 Rounds -- By Swami Gaurangapada

 

 

SO YOU HAVE TO INCREASE (THE CHANTING). THAT IS THE ONLY REMEDY.

 

DETERMINATION TO CHANT 64 ROUNDS IS DRDHA-VRATAH.

 

(CONCLUSION: IF THE MATERIAL FEVER IS NOT BEING DIMINISHED, CHANTING

64 ROUNDS IS THE ONLY REMEDY IN THE WORDS OF SRILA PRABHUPADA IN

THE FOLLOWING MORNING WALK.)

 

Morning Walk, May 14, 1975, Perth:

 

Devotee (1): Shrila Prabhupada, how can the position be reconciled if

in Krishna consciousness one of the two, the husband or the wife, wants

to enjoy sense gratification, but the other does not? Should there be

separation then?

 

Prabhupada: No... They should be trained up. Sense enjoyment means

not advanced in Krishna consciousness. As soon as one is advancing in

Krishna consciousness, his sense enjoyment spirit will be reduced. That

is the test.

 

Bhaktih paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra ca . The test is,

how you are advancing in Krishna consciousness is the proportionate

diminishing of sense enjoyment. That is the test. Just like cure of

the disease means diminishing the fever, temperature. This is the

test.

 

Devotee (1): What if that fever is not being diminished?

 

Prabhupada: Then he should try to chant Hare Krishna mantra, instead of

sixteen rounds, sixty-four rounds. That is the way. Sixteen round is

the minimum. Otherwise Haridasa Thakura was 300,000. So you have to

increase.

 

That is the only remedy. If one has got determination, he will make

progress without any trouble. That determination is very difficult,

that determination, "I must be Krishna conscious fully." That

determination.

 

Drdha-vratah.

 

TRY TO INCREASE (FROM 48 TO 64) BUT NEVER DECREASE YOUR CHANTING.

 

IF YOU ARE ABLE TO CHANT MORE THAN 16 ROUNDS UP TO 64 IT IS VERY GOOD.

 

Letter to: Indira (Iris Mendoza), Ekayani (Esther Mendoza), San

Francisco, 17 December, 1967

 

"I am very glad to learn you are chanting 48 rounds. Actually it is

all right that one should chant 64 rounds, even 16 rounds, so if one

is able to chant more than 16 rounds up to 64, it is very good. You

fix up your rounds.

 

Try to increase it but never decrease it."

 

{Note: Indira is fairly new devotee at that time.)

 

VERY GOOD AND VERY NICE IF YOU CAN DO IT (CHANT 64 ROUNDS):

 

Letter to: Hamsaduta, Hawaii, 23 March, 1969

 

"Yes, it is very good if you can chant 64 rounds; this is very nice

if you can do it."

 

PRABHUPADA PRESCRIBED 64 ROUNDS WHEN DEVOTEES WERE IN TROUBLE WITH

THEIR SENSES:

 

Letter to: Bhaktijana, Los Angeles, 12 February, 1968

 

"I shall advise you again to chant always, increasing the counting,

namely, 16 rounds is generally prescribed, but for the time being you

can stop all other activities and increase the chanting to 64 rounds."

 

That is the instruction given by Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu in His

Siksastaka 3. Kirtaniyah sada harih:  "The holy name

of the Lord should be chanted twenty-four hours daily." Therefore in

this Krishna consciousness movement we request the devotees to chant at

least sixteen rounds on their beads daily. Actually one has to chant

twenty-four hours daily, just like Thakura Haridasa, who was chanting

the Hare Krishna mantra three hundred thousand times daily. Indeed, he

had no other business. (Shrimad-Bhagavatam 4.24.70 purport)

 

IF YOU CAN'T SURRENDER TO KRSNA, FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF HARIDASA

THAKURA BY CHANTING CONSTANTLY ON BEADS

 

Surrender is the ultimate instruction of the Bhagavad-gita, but for

one who cannot surrender to the lotus feet of Krishna, it is better to

chant the Hare Krishna mantra constantly, under the instruction of

Haridasa Thakura.

 

In our Krishna consciousness movement we are teaching our followers to

chant the Hare Krishna mantra continuously on beads. Even those who are

not accustomed to this practice are advised to chant at least sixteen

rounds on their beads so that they may be trained. Sada

means "always." Haridasa Thakura says, nirantara nama lao: "Chant the

Hare Krishna mantra without stopping." One's real duty is to

surrender to the lotus feet of Krishna, but if one is unable to do so,

he should adopt this process, as introduced by Shri Chaitanya

Mahaprabhu and His most confidential servant, Namacarya Shrila

Haridasa Thakura. This is the way to achieve success in Krishna

consciousness. (Shri Chaitanya-charitamrita Antya-lila 3.137)

 

(Note: Apart from this there are innumerable quotes by Prabhupada

throughout Bhagavatam & Cc on the necessity of constantly chanting

the holy names. A daily discipline of chanting 64 rounds is a great

boost to come up to the stage of constant chanting imho.)

 

FIRST INITIATION BY SRILA PRABHUPADA

 

The Hare Krishna Explosion, p. 63, by Hayagriva dasa, Palace Press

1985.

 

"Now that you have beads," Swamiji says the next morning, "you should

chant sixty-four rounds every day." "Sixty-four rounds?" To pronounce

every word of the mantra distinctly, we require five minutes to chant

a round. Sixty-four rounds would take over five hours. "Impossible!"

we say. "We'll never have the time." "All right," Swamiji

says. "Thirty-two rounds." "Impossible," we say. "We'll never be able

to do it. It's way too much." "All right," Swamiji says. "Sixteen

rounds. No less."

 

TKG's Diary June 10

 

Many years ago (Shrila Prabhupada), he was chanting sixty-four rounds,

then gradually less, until a number of years ago it was sixteen.

 

____________________

 

CONCLUSION: What follows are my personal realizations and/or feelings

about the process of chanting 64 rounds daily. I appeal to all the

sara-grahi vaishnavas to kindly take the good points and please don't

challenge me for some of them if they disagree.

 

If one can discharge his practical devotional services and manage to

chant 64 rounds then it is the best. Chanting 64 rounds should not be

an excuse to escape doing one's services or the daily program of

sadhana-bhakti given by Prabhupada. If a devotee has genuine desire

to chant 64 rounds then he will find out the way without disturbing

anybody. As far as I know there is not a single written instruction

or statement from Prabhupada discouraging devotees to chant 64 rounds

if they could manage to do it alongwith their other services. Also

chanting 64 rounds in the association of devotees while engaged in

services related to preaching can never be considered nirjana-

bhajana. Ofcourse the devotees who chant 64 rounds should not get

puffed up and look down on other devotees who don't chant 64. They

should feel themselves as so contaminated and fallen that chanting 64

rounds daily is the only hope for them to steadily remain in Krishna

consciousness.

 

Also if one chants 64 rounds with attachment then it automatically

brings a great upsurge of humility and ecstacy in one's heart. One

becomes jubilant in deep rememberance of the Lord's pastimes and

constantly aspires to become the servant of the servant. And one

becomes totally enthusiastic to preach vigorously (jive doya). One's

preaching becomes unlimitedly more effective and can convert sinful

people into devotees even by preaching only a little. This is simply

due to the potency of the holy name and anyone can experience it of

one increases the chanting without compromising on the quality &

distinct pronunciation of the chanting. One can achieve the stage of

nishtha or real madhyama-adhikari platform crossing the stage of

anartha-nivrtti very quickly (maybe maximum of 10 years) by chanting

64 rounds everyday while trying to avoid the ten offenses and if one

is surrendered to one's guru.

 

One can beg from the guru his permission and blessings to chant 64

rounds. If one gets it then one will surely be successful very

quickly (I can give furthur sastric references which state that the

progress is very quick if one sincerely chants an increased no. of

rounds without an ulterior motive and that without increasing the

chanting there is no other way.) Just like the prostitute who became

a pure devotee very quickly simply by chanting 3,00,000 names daily

on the instruction of her guru Haridasa Thakura. According to

Bhagavatam, Padma Purana, Hari-nama-cintamani, Prema-vivarta etc.

chanting constantly is the only means to keep the namaparadhas from

constantly attacking us. Side by side one has to deeply study the 10

offenses and conscientiously try to avoid each of them. Also one

should have great attachment for Lord Gaura & Lord Nityananda's name,

pastimes, dhama and associates which very quickly renders our

chanting of Hare Krishna offenseless.

 

There is an even more quicker way. If one chants 64 rounds or more

while residing in Navadvipa-dhama, then according to Nityananda

Prabhu and Thakura Bhaktivinoda in Navadvipa-dhama-parikrama, one

gets pure love of Radha-Krishna very very quickly even though one may

be full of offenses in the very beginning. One has to chant in

Navadvipa with sambandha-jnana with Lord Chaitanya and in a humble

state of mind. Ofcourse it may not be possible for all devotees.

 

Just one more point as food for thought. Many yogis and jnanis

perform their sadhana for hours together daily. We have got the

highest and most sublime process of self-realiztion which is chanting

the Hare Krishna maha-mantra. The chanting is fully capable in and of

itself to award us the greatest gift of love of God. There is nothing

else required. And we give only 1 1/2 to 2 hours daily for chanting

16 rounds and feel we that we have done a lot of sadhana. Comparing

to 24 hours everyday 2 hours is nothing. We have the greatest means

of sadhana available, the Hare Krishna maha-mantra as given by Lord

Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (the combined form of Radha and Krishna who comes

only in once in one day of Brahma) and we do it for only 2 hrs

everyday out of 24 hours. This may not be the most effective use of

the human form of life. If someone gets the most valuable jewel in

the world, then he will always keep it with him.

 

To chant 64 rounds daily it may take 5 1/2 6 or 7 or 8 hours. But

what is that compared to the greatest gift which we are going to

receive in return i.e. pure love for Radha & Krishna and eligibility to

enter Goloka Vrindavan and put an end to all over miseries once and

for all.

 

LOOK FOR THE NEXT SEGMENT: LORD CAITANYA & THE ACARYAS ON 64 ROUNDS.

 

(A comprehensive collection of quotes)

 

Your aspiring servant, BR Sadhu Swami